# 282 + HiCap DR + HiCap2?

**URL:** <https://community.naimaudio.com/t/282-hicap-dr-hicap2/5504>\
**Category:** Hi-Fi Corner\
**Created:** [December 18, 2019, 5:40am UTC](https://community.naimaudio.com/t/282-hicap-dr-hicap2/5504 "2019-12-18T05:40:06Z")\
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**Author:** ![jezoakley](https://community.naimaudio.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/j/41988e/32.png) [@jezoakley](https://community.naimaudio.com/u/jezoakley)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2019, 5:40am UTC](https://community.naimaudio.com/t/282-hicap-dr-hicap2/5504/1 "2019-12-18T05:40:06Z")

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Hello,

I currently have a 282 powered by a recently serviced non DR HiCap.

What if I was to invest in a second HiCap DR to run alongside my existing non DR HiCap?

Thoughts please…?

TIA

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**Author:** ![GraemeH](https://community.naimaudio.com/user_avatar/community.naimaudio.com/graemeh/32/337_2.png) [@GraemeH](https://community.naimaudio.com/u/GraemeH)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2019, 6:24am UTC](https://community.naimaudio.com/t/282-hicap-dr-hicap2/5504/2 "2019-12-18T06:24:02Z")

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Absolutely not recommended. Try the single DR HC though.

If you use the search function and google you will find lots of advice on this.

G

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**Author:** ![trickydickie](https://community.naimaudio.com/user_avatar/community.naimaudio.com/trickydickie/32/79_2.png) [@trickydickie](https://community.naimaudio.com/u/trickydickie)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2019, 7:17am UTC](https://community.naimaudio.com/t/282-hicap-dr-hicap2/5504/3 "2019-12-18T07:17:00Z")

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Definitely not, it will unbalance the sound of the pre-amp.

In you shoes I would either change to a Hicap DR or swap the NAP200 for a NAP250 DR.

In the same situation as you I did the Hicap first, but mine was due a service. If I had my time again I’d do the power amp first, the difference was far more substantial.

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**Author:** ![jezoakley](https://community.naimaudio.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/j/41988e/32.png) [@jezoakley](https://community.naimaudio.com/u/jezoakley)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2019, 9:38am UTC](https://community.naimaudio.com/t/282-hicap-dr-hicap2/5504/4 "2019-12-18T09:38:53Z")

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That seems pretty decisive! Out of curiosity, how does mixing and matching DR and non DR HiCaps result in a worse sound? I was thinking it would be a case of DR HC + nothing vs DR HC plus ‘something’

As it happens, I still have my old 202 and original NAPSC sitting around so the following could be an option:

1. Purchase new HiCap DR
2. Sell the HiCap, 200, 202 and NAPSC
3. Purchase a 250 DR

Thanks.

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**Author:** ![anon4489532](https://community.naimaudio.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/e9bcb4/32.png) [@anon4489532](https://community.naimaudio.com/u/anon4489532)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2019, 9:58am UTC](https://community.naimaudio.com/t/282-hicap-dr-hicap2/5504/5 "2019-12-18T09:58:46Z")

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The two Hicaps power different parts of the 282 - I thought it was left and right but it may be more complex than that - so if they are not perfectly matched the sound won’t be as it should. I really like your idea. There’s no point having unused stuff lying about. The 282, HCDR and 250DR would be a huge step up.

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**Author:** ![feeling\_zen](https://community.naimaudio.com/user_avatar/community.naimaudio.com/feeling_zen/32/315_2.png) [@feeling\_zen](https://community.naimaudio.com/u/feeling_zen)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2019, 10:08am UTC](https://community.naimaudio.com/t/282-hicap-dr-hicap2/5504/6 "2019-12-18T10:08:29Z")

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Yes left and right on the 282. Easier to mix on the old 82 because the rails are divided differently (not left and right).

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**Author:** ![Alley\_Cat](https://community.naimaudio.com/user_avatar/community.naimaudio.com/alley_cat/32/7330_2.png) [@Alley\_Cat](https://community.naimaudio.com/u/Alley_Cat)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2019, 12:18pm UTC](https://community.naimaudio.com/t/282-hicap-dr-hicap2/5504/7 "2019-12-18T12:18:04Z")

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> [@anon4489532](#):
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> The two Hicaps power different parts of the 282 - I thought it was left and right but it may be more complex than that - so if they are not perfectly matched the sound won’t be as it should. …

I assumed 2 HCs would end up suplying L/R audio when I asked a similar question ages ago as that would explain the need for fairly well matched HCs - I don’t think it actually is that simple from memory, I think the thread was on the old forum.

I’ve never been overimpresed with 2 HCs on my 282 , though at present only have 1 on the 282 as the other is on a NAXO. I may have just found another HC in storage along with a load of leads (I know I have 3 HCs for certain, 2 olive (serviced) and 1 chrome bumper that came with the 2nd hand NAXO 20 years ago - both the CB components could do with servicing I suspect!

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**Author:** ![jezoakley](https://community.naimaudio.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/j/41988e/32.png) [@jezoakley](https://community.naimaudio.com/u/jezoakley)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2019, 1:16pm UTC](https://community.naimaudio.com/t/282-hicap-dr-hicap2/5504/8 "2019-12-18T13:16:28Z")

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Thanks for the technical insight. If it’s left and right then it’s clearly a total non starter.

Will have to see what my bank balance looks like in January…

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**Author:** ![cat345](https://community.naimaudio.com/user_avatar/community.naimaudio.com/cat345/32/760_2.png) [@cat345](https://community.naimaudio.com/u/cat345)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2019, 1:48pm UTC](https://community.naimaudio.com/t/282-hicap-dr-hicap2/5504/9 "2019-12-18T13:48:09Z")

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This question about one or two hicaps have been asked many times before on the old forum and even in the ‘other’ forum. Guess what, you will never have a definite answer to this it seems.  
Another avenue would be to get rid of the hicap + other unused equipment and get a SupercapDR. Problem solved for years to come…

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**Author:** ![WYVRN](https://community.naimaudio.com/user_avatar/community.naimaudio.com/wyvrn/32/9213_2.png) [@WYVRN](https://community.naimaudio.com/u/WYVRN)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2019, 1:52pm UTC](https://community.naimaudio.com/t/282-hicap-dr-hicap2/5504/10 "2019-12-18T13:52:40Z")

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Tried this

Not recommended - strange imbalance in sound

Use Single HC or single SC instead

I even tried using two HC DR - one serial 38xx one serial 41xx - did not work well too , perhaps due to age difference ?

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**Author:** ![GraemeH](https://community.naimaudio.com/user_avatar/community.naimaudio.com/graemeh/32/337_2.png) [@GraemeH](https://community.naimaudio.com/u/GraemeH)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2019, 2:13pm UTC](https://community.naimaudio.com/t/282-hicap-dr-hicap2/5504/11 "2019-12-18T14:13:01Z")

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> [@cat345](#):
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> This question about one or two hicaps have been asked many times before on the old forum and even in the ‘other’ forum. Guess what, you will never have a definite answer to this it seems.  
> Another avenue would be to get rid of the hicap + other unused equipment and get a SupercapDR. Problem solved for years to come…

Even the SCDR divides opinion on the 282.

G

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**Author:** ![cat345](https://community.naimaudio.com/user_avatar/community.naimaudio.com/cat345/32/760_2.png) [@cat345](https://community.naimaudio.com/u/cat345)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2019, 2:24pm UTC](https://community.naimaudio.com/t/282-hicap-dr-hicap2/5504/12 "2019-12-18T14:24:40Z")

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This is another assertion one hear from time to time in the forum. How could a better and lower noise power supply imbalance the sound of a preamplifier?

As I understand it, a power supply does not ‘force push’ current to circuits in the preamplifier but the preamp just use what’s needed.

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**Author:** ![Alley\_Cat](https://community.naimaudio.com/user_avatar/community.naimaudio.com/alley_cat/32/7330_2.png) [@Alley\_Cat](https://community.naimaudio.com/u/Alley_Cat)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2019, 6:49pm UTC](https://community.naimaudio.com/t/282-hicap-dr-hicap2/5504/13 "2019-12-18T18:49:33Z")

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Not sure this helps as I still don’t understand it!

> [@NAC 282 2nd Hi-Cap](https://community.naimaudio.com/t/nac-282-2nd-hi-cap/1291):
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> My understanding is that 2nd HiCap or Supercap enable different parts of the NAC 282 to be powered independently. Two Hi Caps may introduce earth ground loop issues I gather as separate devices. Appreciate many find no improvement with 2 HiCaps or worse, but can someone kindly explain which bits of circuitry each SNAIC connection powers, or does one power left channel, the other the right? Just thinking that if you have 2 Hi Caps, if one might be better than the other (I know it’s suggested n…

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**Author:** ![Guinnless](https://community.naimaudio.com/user_avatar/community.naimaudio.com/guinnless/32/362819_2.png) [@Guinnless](https://community.naimaudio.com/u/Guinnless)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2019, 7:38pm UTC](https://community.naimaudio.com/t/282-hicap-dr-hicap2/5504/14 "2019-12-18T19:38:39Z")

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> [@jezoakley](#):
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> Thanks for the technical insight. If it’s left and right then it’s clearly a total non starter.

It is yes.  
And there are no ground loops with two Hicaps either. 😊

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**Author:** ![Alley\_Cat](https://community.naimaudio.com/user_avatar/community.naimaudio.com/alley_cat/32/7330_2.png) [@Alley\_Cat](https://community.naimaudio.com/u/Alley_Cat)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2019, 8:14pm UTC](https://community.naimaudio.com/t/282-hicap-dr-hicap2/5504/15 "2019-12-18T20:14:26Z")

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> [@Alley\_Cat](#):
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> … I may have just found another HC in storage along with a load of leads (I know I have 3 HCs for certain, 2 olive (serviced) and 1 chrome bumper that came with the 2nd hand NAXO 20 years ago - both the CB components could do with servicing I suspect!

Bang goes that test! The CB HICAP won’t power the 2nd upgrade on the 282 or power the NAXO - I can hear a vague transformer noise when I connect it to power and turn it on - no light on the front which I think the CB HICAPs had. Drat.

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**Author:** ![Guinnless](https://community.naimaudio.com/user_avatar/community.naimaudio.com/guinnless/32/362819_2.png) [@Guinnless](https://community.naimaudio.com/u/Guinnless)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2019, 8:17pm UTC](https://community.naimaudio.com/t/282-hicap-dr-hicap2/5504/16 "2019-12-18T20:17:21Z")

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Could be dead tants. The LED assembly, if original, is a common failure. So fixed with a service though 😊

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**Author:** ![Alley\_Cat](https://community.naimaudio.com/user_avatar/community.naimaudio.com/alley_cat/32/7330_2.png) [@Alley\_Cat](https://community.naimaudio.com/u/Alley_Cat)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2019, 8:44pm UTC](https://community.naimaudio.com/t/282-hicap-dr-hicap2/5504/17 "2019-12-18T20:44:28Z")

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May be subjective but it seems a darned sight heavier than the olive HICAPs…

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**Author:** ![Guinnless](https://community.naimaudio.com/user_avatar/community.naimaudio.com/guinnless/32/362819_2.png) [@Guinnless](https://community.naimaudio.com/u/Guinnless)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2019, 8:46pm UTC](https://community.naimaudio.com/t/282-hicap-dr-hicap2/5504/18 "2019-12-18T20:46:42Z")

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That may be the H & F transformer. 😊

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**Author:** ![Alley\_Cat](https://community.naimaudio.com/user_avatar/community.naimaudio.com/alley_cat/32/7330_2.png) [@Alley\_Cat](https://community.naimaudio.com/u/Alley_Cat)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2019, 8:47pm UTC](https://community.naimaudio.com/t/282-hicap-dr-hicap2/5504/19 "2019-12-18T20:47:29Z")

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> [@Guinnless](#):
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> That may be the H & F transformer. 😊

My thoughts precisely - need to open them up and have a peek, assuming I’ll be able to tell.

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**Author:** ![Guinnless](https://community.naimaudio.com/user_avatar/community.naimaudio.com/guinnless/32/362819_2.png) [@Guinnless](https://community.naimaudio.com/u/Guinnless)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2019, 8:49pm UTC](https://community.naimaudio.com/t/282-hicap-dr-hicap2/5504/20 "2019-12-18T20:49:30Z")

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All CBs and early Olives are H&F.

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