Active PMC v ATC : The Best Things… Part II

Dear @BlueCanary

Hope you’re having fun over there…
Do share pictures, if or when you can?

Happy listening
R

Hi BC can I ask what was the 200w amp you had before you went to the active PMC’s.

Hi @silverback - it was a Meridian G57 having done 19 years exemplary service. BC

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I heard similar reports of 70 Watts idle for the 50’s but when I measured them they were 40 Watts each which is far better. I’m sure I’ve read that ATC’s amp packs run at 1/8 power on idle which equates to 43.75 Watts for the 50’s and very close to what was measured.

I always switch mine off at the end of the day and switch them on 15 minutes before listening. The 50’s seem to take a little longer to warm up than the 40’s but fast enough not to be an issue.

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Latest update

Two things to report …

New speakers “blossom” over time.
Firstly, maybe two or three weeks back, was enjoying an empty house and playing music loud, ( louder than normal). First time in a while I’d had the chance to do this. In this moment, it occurred to me the speakers had maybe “blossomed” a little.

I’m not entirely convinced about this experience as this is something that had crept up on me - over time - rather than being obvious or objective, at any specific time beforehand .

The new 23i’s and their active modules were probably at the 200+ hours mark.

But, cannot deny, suddenly found myself hearing subtle details in the music not noticed before.

Just when you think you’re nearly done
More recently, moved a few things around and put a second HCDR onto our NAC282. It had not really occurred to me to do this before now. But not had the time or opportunity either. In many ways, glad to have left this until now. To maybe let everything else settle and also allow our ears some time with this new system, since July.

It was a pleasant surprise to discover a modest improvement with SQ. So much so, the extra HCDR is being used on the NAC282 right now and our SuperLine isn’t being used ( for a bit).

Oh dear :flushed:
Now thinking this might be a problem.

This HiFi malarkey is so much fun - listening to music is so rewarding - but at the same time, where do you stop. I was honesty thinking I’d stop once a PSU was added to our nDAC. So, have to confess, I’ve spent a few quiet moments during this last last week looking at eBay and other places thinking about a SuperCap DR too.

Let’s see which comes first, a PSU for the nDAC, or maybe a SCDR for the 282. Onwards and upwards :roll_eyes:

I’m not really settled about this. Neither PSU’s types can be afforded right now.

Happy listening to everyone on a Sunday.
BW
R

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Here’s a thought. Forget the Supercap, sell the 282 and Hicaps, get a 332 and run balanced. One box instead of four.

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Thanks HH
That thought had occurred to me too :wink:

As there is no money left in the HiFi piggy bank at moment, it’s all “pipe dreams” anyway. Just musing, sharing thoughts along the journey.

HH - Glad you’re enjoying active PMC too.

Happy listening
R

They are good, and much better than I was expecting, which is always nice. Have you heard the New Classics? I wonder how a 222 may stack up against your streamer, nDac and 282. I am so impressed with the Atom HE, and of course the 222 will be a step up. Just musing, as I’ve not heard it. There is certainly something refreshing about having very few boxes.

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Morning ratrat, interesting that you have added a secound hicap sounds like a positive move, I have been contemplating a similar idea but cannot decide which way to go, sell my hicap and add a supercap or even as you have done add another hicap but then a ps for the ndac could be a better move, still pondering the options.
Glad to hear your new setup is working well, always rewarding when a plan comes together.
I have thought trying to move towards a 252 as availability and s/h prices seem to be more affordable at the moment, hence the mention of maybe the move to a supercap first, at the moment funds are a little stretched so would have to be a none dr model which after selling my reasonably new hicap may end up not costing a huge amount to do.
Will give everything some thought and keep watching for anything suitable that may arise.:+1:

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I have no idea how the 332 sounds like, but if the 222 is any indication, it’s probably worlds apart from the 282/252. And not in a good way.

But then again, I much prefer women of the 80s to modern divas.

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Hi @Dan.S
Just checking in with you…
How are getting along with those cables and PMC’s ?

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They look amazing in my home office! No idea what exactly do they bring to the table as I’ve sent the 282 into service a month ago, looking at another month or so before I can answer your question. :grin:

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That month will give you time to turn your Quadraspire round, as it’s currently back to front.

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Hahaha :rofl:
Okay I’ll come back and ask again in a few weeks.

Neah, lots more interesting things to do with my time.

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I’ve been following your interesting journey. Having had the opportunity to listen to Nigel’s active 21is yesterday, I was seriously impressed with what these active PMCs can do. Nigel has got a cracker of a system, very simple and unobtrusive, yet very enjoyable.

Less can really be more and I can see why these active PMCs are proving popular.

Whilst I have no real need to change my present setup, I’m curious as to what a pair of active 23i / 24i speakers would sound like in my lounge and with my front end.

Something to investigate further in the new year…

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Hello again @Dan.S

Just checking in again, after the month…
Did you get as far as trying twenty5 active upgrade module with your PMC 23’s ?

More recently, see that you added Dynaudio C20’s, so maybe you went a different way ?

BW
R

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An offer I couldn’t refuse was made so ended up with the Confidence 20. I was surprised by how well the 25.23 held their own for the first 24-48 hours until the Dynaudios loosened up a bit.

I would have kept the PMC and activate them for the Unitiqute2 in the livingroom if the current active Focals (Shape 65) hadn’t been so good thus far.

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