Add an ND5 XS 2 to an XS System or Purchase HQ Vinyl

Qobuz on a really good streamer is very hard to distinguish from a good CD on a good CD player and from rips on a Core of those same CDs - we really tried.

I have an ND5XS2 (into 82/Hicap/250) in the holiday cottage. Beating that with a new turntable for pure SQ is not impossible imho but would require spending rather more than the cost of that streamer - and probably more than a new NDX2. It also requires decent vinyl.

I hope that helps.

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OP:

Unless you already have a significant vinyl collection, I’d definitely pass on a new turntable.

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@sktn77a , Dear sktn77a,

I already have a very nice Linn TT and probably jumped in the deep end too soon with this piece of equipment. I originally purchased the Linn, so my wife could listen to her collection of LPs from the 70s and 80s.

Then, after listening to a Cat Stevens album, “Tea For The Tillerman,” I was sold on vinyl and went that way myself. I do not regret my purchase, though the money could have been spent on an ND5XS at the time, and our internet connection was so poor it did not even pop up on my radar.

Now, with a home with FTTP, it does, though possibly too late for an inclusion. If and when I sell my Harley, it might be an acquisition, though by then, the sales will be over, and something new will be out, most likely.

Thank you for your valued inputs.

Mitch in Oz.

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I am heavily invested in vinyl and want nothing to do with anymore of the MoFi One-Step releases (I have 3). They are way overpriced (even for me in St. Louis, just a few hundred miles from the parent company), and the packaging is about as overboard, cheesy and cheap as it gets. Get the ND5-XS2 with a Qobuz subscription. That has much better value.

Disclaimer: my analog front end costs a lot more than my car, but I’d rather spend $150 on used classical records from the 70s than any MoFi One-Step.

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Ah, sorry, I misread your first post. By all means buy more vinyl records. Just be aware that because they may be sold as “HQ”, they may not be any better than regular releases/re-releases (many “re-mastered” albums sound simply awful)!

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@sktn77a ,

This is what makes it so difficult for me, living in a regional country town, to purchase my music via shops that offer an online sale. I am trying to find a label or shop I trust or can trust.

I have a short list of vocalists and violinists I enjoy and have added another two to my very short list. Most are CD releases, though I have Anne-Sophie Mutter on an LP titled Across the Stars, which arrived yesterday, and I hope to listen to this LP later today (Friday).

I’m sorry, just some more waffle from my keyboard.

Warm regards,

Mitch in Oz.

I recently bought a Cyrus 82 DAC for my bedroom just before the Naim sale. Would have considered a Nait 5si. :thinking:

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I watched an interesting YouTube video, all new records and remastered records are taken from digital PCM masters.

Older pre 2000 vinyl will be recorded in analogue and mixed in the analouge domain. Just a thought? Older LP’s should should superior if they are in good condition

That is not true for everything. There are series that are remastered from analog source with no digital steps: Blue Note’s Tone Poet and Classic series, DG Classics’ The Original Source series, the new OJC jazz series, the Acoustic Sounds Verve Series, the Acoustic Sounds Contemporary series, and more.

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Re:HQ vinyl, I’ve been experimenting with cleaning noisy vinyl purchased from eBay with surprising results. In my experience, most purchases are in good condition physically but they can be dirty. Rather than buy a cleaning machine I had a go with some cleaning fluid and a micro fibre sponge. Just wet the sponge and place it on the vinyl as it is spinning and wet all the grooves. Leave it for a few minutes and remove the residue using a normal record cleaning brush. Then play the record letting the stylus do the rest. There is an audible improvement immediately which gets better after a couple of plays. Of course, you do need to ensure the stylus is cleaned and never play a wet album. This opens up a world of preloved vinyl at bargain prices, most of which has had little use. Of course there’s nothing you can do about real scratches but it’s a chance worth taking I feel.

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On your turntable? :face_with_spiral_eyes:

Of the cleaning? Really? :face_with_open_eyes_and_hand_over_mouth:

As recommended by Linn themselves :wink:

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Ok, obviously bow to your greater knowledge.

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Having been digitised before making vinyl doesn’t inherently adversely affect the sound, assuming it’s done properly and that mastering hasn’t bastardise the recording - which happens too often! You will still get the final character from the very process.

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If the sound quality of the in ND5XS2 is satisfactory to you, then you can do any time – and noting that your interest is online streaming, as opposed to from your own store, you would then immediately get access to divorced amount of music out there– and if that appeals to you then perhaps that answers your question. As for something new coming along given that the XS2 is not very old I suspect it will be quite a few years before Naim produces a successor. There are of course other alternatives. Also I have no idea for how long you might keep your Harley. (If it were me I’d dump it now, and if I wanted a bike I’d get a proper one! :grin:)

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:joy: Unfortunately, Harley Davidson is the only large cc motorcycle dealer close to me. I do enjoy my heritage. There is a Kawasaki Dealer who sells quad bikes to our local farming community. However, I wish for a bike with cruise control. My dear wife is still adamant about obtaining her spa pool next year, so I will enjoy it as best I can until then. (Depending on pension, please see below).

There are other financial reasons that I do not wish to go into due to a number of workplace accidents that prevent me from working again. Psychological. I am hoping to obtain a government disability pension later this or early next year.

Warm regards,

Mitch in Oz.

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Wow, that seems so unlike biking that I know, more like car…! To me biking is about freedom, fun, speed, cranking it over round bends, etc. But tgat is not knocking your choice, simply contrasting what we might get out of them - and I no longer have one at all!

As for the other things to which you allude, I wish you all the best, and hope both your hifi and riding futures work out well for you.

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@Gigantor
Hi Mitch,
The sale price from ATA is fantastic right now and a ND5 XS2 would be a great buy if you can stretch for it, in the long run it would be worth it for the huge world of online streaming and musical choice it will give you for years to come.
Alternatively, you could look at cheaper and still very good streamers i.e. Arcam ST60 or NAD C658 which are both award winners with What HiFi Magazine in the UK as was the ND5 XS2, they are different price points at normal RRP which makes the ND5 XS2 deal at ATA very attractice.
I would definately recommend you get into online streaming for the huge choice and convenience it brings and the sound quality of streamers now is very good.
When I started with online streaming to initially test it out I did not want to go to the big expense of a Naim streamer and got the NAD C658 to try streaming out, its fantastic, I use Tidal, and after a couple of years I upgraded last year to a better streamer/dac, its the way to go in my experience.

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IOM? …… Cruise control is a much underated bike feature (alongside heated grips) imo. Travelling from UK to Scandinavia, or the Alps or Spain requires a couple of days of motorway. And I imagine biking down under involves similar long straight stretches albeit warmer and drier. I love my FJR and it’ll get round the Ramsay hairpin with a pillion with ease and cross the mountain at over @%!?mph :wink:………End of drift.

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