# Alternative to Phantom speaker cable **URL:** \ **Category:** Hi-Fi Corner\ **Created:** [July 12, 2023, 11:23am UTC](https://community.naimaudio.com/t/alternative-to-phantom-speaker-cable/29900 "2023-07-12T11:23:37Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Toon](https://community.naimaudio.com/user_avatar/community.naimaudio.com/toon/32/263470_2.png) [@Toon](https://community.naimaudio.com/u/Toon)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2023, 6:48pm UTC](https://community.naimaudio.com/t/alternative-to-phantom-speaker-cable/29900/62 "2023-09-27T18:48:43Z")
> [@3401](#): > > the mysterious Spectre seem to have vanished into thin air - what did it cost? I paid £122/metre for my Spectre. No regrets. At all. ---
**Author:** ![Dynaudio1](https://community.naimaudio.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/45deac/32.png) [@Dynaudio1](https://community.naimaudio.com/u/Dynaudio1)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2023, 6:55pm UTC](https://community.naimaudio.com/t/alternative-to-phantom-speaker-cable/29900/63 "2023-09-27T18:55:45Z")
It certainly lived up to its name ! ---
**Author:** ![HungryHalibut](https://community.naimaudio.com/user_avatar/community.naimaudio.com/hungryhalibut/32/325010_2.png) [@HungryHalibut](https://community.naimaudio.com/u/HungryHalibut)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2023, 7:14pm UTC](https://community.naimaudio.com/t/alternative-to-phantom-speaker-cable/29900/64 "2023-09-27T19:14:52Z")
I wonder how many pairs of Spectre were actually sent to customers before the company folded. And where is the roll of cable now…. ---
**Author:** ![Graeme](https://community.naimaudio.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/g/50afbb/32.png) [@Graeme](https://community.naimaudio.com/u/Graeme)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2023, 8:55pm UTC](https://community.naimaudio.com/t/alternative-to-phantom-speaker-cable/29900/65 "2023-09-27T20:55:41Z")
I got mine, so that’s two pairs we know of. ---
**Author:** ![mcleanmuir](https://community.naimaudio.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/8edcca/32.png) [@mcleanmuir](https://community.naimaudio.com/u/mcleanmuir)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2023, 4:40am UTC](https://community.naimaudio.com/t/alternative-to-phantom-speaker-cable/29900/66 "2023-09-28T04:40:26Z")
I got mine, they replaced my Phantoms. Pretty awesome to be honest. My advice if some come up for sale bag them. ---
**Author:** ![edo](https://community.naimaudio.com/user_avatar/community.naimaudio.com/edo/32/27186_2.png) [@edo](https://community.naimaudio.com/u/edo)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2023, 4:49am UTC](https://community.naimaudio.com/t/alternative-to-phantom-speaker-cable/29900/67 "2023-09-28T04:49:24Z")
My understanding is that Phantom was tin plated OF copper, not OCC. Spectre was OCC with no plating. ---
**Author:** ![Yorkshireman](https://community.naimaudio.com/user_avatar/community.naimaudio.com/yorkshireman/32/15103_2.png) [@Yorkshireman](https://community.naimaudio.com/u/Yorkshireman)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2023, 3:36pm UTC](https://community.naimaudio.com/t/alternative-to-phantom-speaker-cable/29900/68 "2023-09-28T15:36:30Z")
> [@edo](#): > > My understanding is Sorry I meant Spectre. previous comment edited. ---
**Author:** ![david1111](https://community.naimaudio.com/user_avatar/community.naimaudio.com/david1111/32/116200_2.png) [@david1111](https://community.naimaudio.com/u/david1111)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2023, 2:08am UTC](https://community.naimaudio.com/t/alternative-to-phantom-speaker-cable/29900/69 "2023-09-30T02:08:42Z")
> [@Toon](#): > > Chord Epic Twin → WH Phantom → Kudos KS-1 → WH Spectre. With the Specters not being available now except as pre-owned, I guess you would highly tecommend the KS-1s? I think a lot of people were planning on Phantoms or Spectres at some point. ---
**Author:** ![Toon](https://community.naimaudio.com/user_avatar/community.naimaudio.com/toon/32/263470_2.png) [@Toon](https://community.naimaudio.com/u/Toon)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2023, 6:08am UTC](https://community.naimaudio.com/t/alternative-to-phantom-speaker-cable/29900/70 "2023-09-30T06:08:26Z")
> [@david1111](#): > > With the Specters not being available now except as pre-owned, I guess you would highly tecommend the KS-1s? > I think a lot of people were planning on Phantoms or Spectres at some point. Absolutely. KS-1 is an amazing cable and great value for money too. ---
**Author:** ![anon77199223](https://community.naimaudio.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/6bbea6/32.png) [@anon77199223](https://community.naimaudio.com/u/anon77199223)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2023, 6:19am UTC](https://community.naimaudio.com/t/alternative-to-phantom-speaker-cable/29900/71 "2023-09-30T06:19:28Z")
Which company produced the Phantom cable for Witch Hat? ---
**Author:** ![Yorkshireman](https://community.naimaudio.com/user_avatar/community.naimaudio.com/yorkshireman/32/15103_2.png) [@Yorkshireman](https://community.naimaudio.com/u/Yorkshireman)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2023, 8:35am UTC](https://community.naimaudio.com/t/alternative-to-phantom-speaker-cable/29900/72 "2023-09-30T08:35:53Z")
I did have Spectre on order… I just found it interesting that Which Hat had done their own research of numerous other cables which I assume possibly included tin and silver plated and maybe even solid or Litz silver and they preferred just OCC Copper. With regards to the silver cable, I did actually speak to them on the phone and they told me that they’d tried silver so it’s not assume or possibly. ---
**Author:** ![david1111](https://community.naimaudio.com/user_avatar/community.naimaudio.com/david1111/32/116200_2.png) [@david1111](https://community.naimaudio.com/u/david1111)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2023, 3:45am UTC](https://community.naimaudio.com/t/alternative-to-phantom-speaker-cable/29900/73 "2023-10-01T03:45:50Z")
> [@Toon](#): > > Absolutely. KS-1 is an amazing cable and great value for money too. Thanks, good to know from someone who has experienced all the other cables I was considering. ---
**Author:** ![david1111](https://community.naimaudio.com/user_avatar/community.naimaudio.com/david1111/32/116200_2.png) [@david1111](https://community.naimaudio.com/u/david1111)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2023, 3:51am UTC](https://community.naimaudio.com/t/alternative-to-phantom-speaker-cable/29900/74 "2023-10-01T03:51:10Z")
> [@Yorkshireman](#): > > and they preferred just OCC Copper. Yes, interesting. I, myself, have always had a healthy respect for OCC copper in cables. I’ve often thought that the wind of the wire was more important than the add-ons to the composition. But hey, what do I know … 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![JohnF](https://community.naimaudio.com/user_avatar/community.naimaudio.com/johnf/32/38287_2.png) [@JohnF](https://community.naimaudio.com/u/JohnF)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2023, 7:48am UTC](https://community.naimaudio.com/t/alternative-to-phantom-speaker-cable/29900/75 "2023-10-01T07:48:22Z")
Cables are very subjective. I’ve heard the KS-1 and although I thought it better than NACA5 I considered it inferior to Phantom. It’s a pity the Spectre cables failed to appear as those who heard them stated they were superior to all the above. ---
**Author:** ![damy79](https://community.naimaudio.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@damy79](https://community.naimaudio.com/u/damy79)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2023, 7:58am UTC](https://community.naimaudio.com/t/alternative-to-phantom-speaker-cable/29900/76 "2023-10-01T07:58:31Z")
I’m using TQ Ultra Black II that it’s much more expensive than KS-1 however I’m going to test KS-1 in the next few weeks. I’m looking for something a little bit airy and less bassy. I’m really curious to compare them in my Naim/Kudos 606 system. ---
**Author:** ![dmu](https://community.naimaudio.com/user_avatar/community.naimaudio.com/dmu/32/178116_2.png) [@dmu](https://community.naimaudio.com/u/dmu)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2023, 8:25am UTC](https://community.naimaudio.com/t/alternative-to-phantom-speaker-cable/29900/77 "2023-10-01T08:25:28Z")
It depends on a lot of factors in my room the phantom didn’t work well but I love my ks1 cables. ---
**Author:** ![GraemeH](https://community.naimaudio.com/user_avatar/community.naimaudio.com/graemeh/32/337_2.png) [@GraemeH](https://community.naimaudio.com/u/GraemeH)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2023, 10:51am UTC](https://community.naimaudio.com/t/alternative-to-phantom-speaker-cable/29900/78 "2023-10-01T10:51:20Z")
I had Phantom, tested Spectre but much prefer KS-1. Even though it proved a gateway drug to me buying Kudos T505 ‘speakers lol. G ---
**Author:** ![Buryfc](https://community.naimaudio.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/cab0a1/32.png) [@Buryfc](https://community.naimaudio.com/u/Buryfc)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2023, 1:17pm UTC](https://community.naimaudio.com/t/alternative-to-phantom-speaker-cable/29900/79 "2023-10-01T13:17:41Z")
I found the original TQ Ultra Black put way too much bass in my Naim/Kudos system. I switched to KS-1 which although leaner was much more to my liking. I had though previously enjoyed the TQ with PMC speakers. Shows it isn’t one size fits all. ---
**Author:** ![damy79](https://community.naimaudio.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@damy79](https://community.naimaudio.com/u/damy79)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2023, 1:26pm UTC](https://community.naimaudio.com/t/alternative-to-phantom-speaker-cable/29900/80 "2023-10-01T13:26:04Z")
Thank you very much for your feedback. I like TQ Ultra Black II, voices are amazing but probably not really transparent. More on the warm side. I’m tempted to try something more neutral and KS-1 will come in the next few days. ---
**Author:** ![Blackbird](https://community.naimaudio.com/user_avatar/community.naimaudio.com/blackbird/32/461897_2.png) [@Blackbird](https://community.naimaudio.com/u/Blackbird)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2023, 4:38pm UTC](https://community.naimaudio.com/t/alternative-to-phantom-speaker-cable/29900/81 "2023-10-01T16:38:30Z")
> [@Buryfc](#): > > I found the original TQ Ultra Black put way too much bass in my Naim/Kudos system. Same experience here with TQ Ultra Black. [Previous page](https://community.naimaudio.com/t/alternative-to-phantom-speaker-cable/29900.md?page=3) [Next page](https://community.naimaudio.com/t/alternative-to-phantom-speaker-cable/29900.md?page=5)