The issue here, though, is that the source and then the pre-amp are the foundations of the system. If you don’t get that right, your power amp and power supplies will expose the limitations of the source. The 300 really deserves a NDX2 or 272, both with power supplies - that’s how the Naim systems are designed.
If you are building around high end speakers, you need to have the best source, there is no way around that.
What is your phono for your technics tt? I see you have an entry level mm cartridge also.
So finally it’s not very common to begin with big speakers, then big amp, without having a matching pre and a source at the level of the electronics.
Not common.
But I hope you will succeed
I doing think Naim expect you to put a Nova into a 300, don’t worry about that though, i do and it sounds great!
I think Flashback offer a suitable cable for you. Just make sure you specify the devices you are using. Phil
I think the people that have as much savings as is the value of their house, will find the value in the multiple millions, not 500k.
Otoh, contrary to popular opinion (on this forum) I do think you’ll benefit from more expensive speakers, even if your source is not balanced. There’s often good reasons to spend more on one then the other outside the theoretical ideal, and it’s silly to think there will be no benefit s.
That’s apart from the fact that I believe (again opposite to popular forum opinion) that speakers will actually make the largest audible difference. Although balance is always best.
Anyways, FWIIW, I’d suggest running the 300 of the Nova and then take your time deciding on what streamer and pre-amp combination you want and swap them out in one hit.
…or 572/Supernova in a single unit? Innovation roadmap seems to be favouring combining products with greater skill and know-how to deliver unprecedented levels of SQ and VFM.
I managed to skim through it the best I could. Threads in this forum have the tendency to grow lots and lots of branches and that one was covered with Tidal conversations.
If I am not mistaken the gist of that thread is that the 272 is a superb performer and it would be a good choice coupled with a power supply. An updated 272 would be even better and end game for quite a lot of people.
Which leads me to ask: Instead of buying a 282+SCDR+streamer would I be best buying a 272+external power supply?
…after reading this I took a stab at what my system would like based on list prices of a XPS DR > NDX 2 > HiCap DR > SuperNait 2 > ProAc D30RS
Source - NDX 2 + XPS 2 = 4.6 Units
Pre/Power - SN2 + HiCap DR = 2.7 Units
Speakers - ProAc D30RS = 2.7 Units
Just calculated for the fun of it and the numbers did not fit your calculation but do find my humble system to sound mighty fine. It was a fun exercise…
I might not be an expert but that ratio sounds rather flawed. According to that logic, if I spend 2 units on power (£8k on the 300DR) then I have to spend nearly £16000 on a turntable and streamer (4 units) and £4k on speakers (1 unit).
Personally I place more emphasis on the speakers and won’t put them at the bottom of the spending ladder.
On the other hand I am quite particular about speakers. I am not form over functionality but more form and functionality (50:50). I want a pair of speakers that sound good but also look modern and not just another pair of rectangular boxes.
It’s called a system for a reason. Not a bunch of units. And buying speakers by the label, or the color combination. I think you need to find a good and Honest dealer who’ll help you build a great SYSTEM. But good luck
I’m not sure why you have emphasized the word system but I’m afraid you misunderstood what I said. I did not say that I choose the speakers based on their looks but rather looks and performance equally. What I meant is that if I had a choice between ugly speakers and excellent sound or beautiful speakers and very good/near excellent sound then I would go for the latter combination.
And let’s not forget that what someone calls a system somebody else might see as a bunch of units. For me a system needs to have the right combination between functionality/price/sound/looks. I will never buy a system that sounds excellent but gives me nausea everytime I look at it. Because I dont intend to listen to my music in a dark room.
And lastly, the whole point of me starting threads here and asking questions is so that I can understand the (messy) world of Naim better and so that I can make choices based on that knowledge and my preferences to build a system that I am happy with. There is an old saying which translated roughly goes “ask 1000 people and do what YOU think best”. The translation doesnt do it any justice (especially since it rhymes in the original language) but the rough meaning is build a knowedge by asking others and then make a decision on which option YOU prefer.
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I might not be an expert but that ratio sounds rather flawed. According to that logic, if I spend 2 units on power (£8k on the 300DR) then I have to spend nearly £16000 on a turntable and streamer (4 units) and £4k on speakers (1 unit).
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Please…it’s a generalisation, caveated in my post with the fact that the pre and the speakers deserve more attention. I still claim that the principle holds some validity (albeit numbers randomly chosen to make the maths easier) as turn the spend pyramid on its head and you would definitely be in mullet territory…
PS…of course there’s always the “great deal” that comes along that you have to go for (ie NAP300) that skews the whole equation