I’m a bit bemused by this. What to you is an “ordinary” level? To me it is synonymous with realistic, at least for all except full-on rock music, where realistic is extremely loud, any unwise to play for long periods.
As @HungryHalibut says Mogami cables are very good. I am using them with subwoofer both for high level connection and LFE. They are substantial and well made.
Should get you started anyhow. Can always demo the Linn cables and see if it’s worth the extra funds.
It is the rightful place of mere mortals to be bemused by the antics of the gods.
Had identical experiences. Got some demo’s of ATC 40’s (active and passive) and 50’s (active), REL subwoofers always included, at my dealer’s place. My questions about the use of ATC subs and a more logical system synergy didn’t get really straight and comprehensive answers.
You may consider yourself immortal, likening yourself to a god, but that doesn’t make your scriptures any more meaningful to mere mortals, the readers of this forum!
Hi Paul, ATC 4DIN>>XLR Stereo i/conn (9m) cost me £350. No additional splitters as the 2 channels are fed into the din plug that goes into the back of my Naim 552 power supply
For my active 20 stand mounts into an atom HE I have ordered ATC Balanced Cables £147 New XLR leads 2 x 3m
Hope that helps!
Gary
Ineffability is key.
Yep, Designacable setup will cost £157 for 2x 6m plus adapter, ATC maybe double that. Linn/Chord setup £850. I’m more than happy to pay up but ATC don’t seem to promote anything more than “Good quality” cables.
I’ll hear the Linn/Chord cables this week. It will be worth buying Mogami just to see if there is a significant difference. Selling my NAC A5 will cover that cost. Also, next year when I replace the NDS/52, I could move things round and have a single rack between the speakers. That would bring the length/cost of cables down significantly. And I’ll have a rack to sell ![]()
Thanks for that, my man maths reckons it should cost me about £300ish for ATC that means I now have a budget, mid-range and high-range choice between Mogami, ATC and Linn/Chord. I think I’ll need an adapter so I can re-use the XLRs next year when I have a balanced source. As my timeline is one year it might make most sense to go budget for now and re-asses next year. I might even be within budget now ![]()
Just thought I’d throw in to the subs discussion that I felt that the SCM20s had more than enough bass for the fairly large room we demoed in. In fact we ended up turning the bass down a couple of clicks. I think the range is +/-3 and we ended up on 0. For my 4x3m cabin, my only slight concern is whether we can get the bass right.
I found the subs did way more than just better bass, they brought the whole sound together. That said we all have different rooms….
I had budgeted for 50’s but as they didn’t work I was able buy the 20’s and the subs.., sensible approach is let the 20’s settle in then explore subs later.
Cabins can be tricky spaces so hope your home demo works out.
Gary
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Looks wonderful. Might I ask what the isolation platform is please? Thanks
Google “solid-sounds” cost is £139 subject to how you spec it.
A low cost solution for me as the unit it was on was less than ideal…
Gary
I just wondered if the fact that the driver in the sub uses the same short coil long magnetic gap construction as in the main speakers and a similar Class AB mosfet-based amp as the active speaker packs would make them easier to integrate. I believe some potential users don’t like ATC’s “pass through” connections where the speaker signal goes through the sub, but I’ve not come across a direct SQ comparison with other brands. And I’m not currently in the market for a sub, so it wouldn’t be fair to ask a dealer to set up a demo.
Roger
i wonder why that might be…
Perhaps the clue is in the fact that PMC, another manufacturer of neutral sounding “monitor style” speakers says only to ensure cable construction is of a high enough standard to withstand the rigors of everyday use and that they are suitably terminated.
Just realised that Designacable supercap din to balanced xLR cable can be ordered in 6m lengths. That would avoid an extra connector and keep it to a single length. I’d replace it next year but for only £115 wouldn’t be a problem.
If anyone has tried this option I’d be really interested in your opinion.
@Farthings-cat @Paul52135
Hi Gary and Paul
I’m following this thread, but I’m puzzled about a small thing. Please help…
It’s been said above …
For Naim 552 to ATC active 20 towers - using ATC 4pin DIN to XLR ( no splitters required).
For Naim Atom HE - using balanced cables, XLR to XLR, etc.
Are they same or different things ?
Guess, I’m a little confused about the balanced / unbalanced idea ?
The three pins used, on four pin DIN connection - audio out from 552PS or indeed 52PS - is that balanced or unbalanced ? ( Assume this is same DIN pin configuration for a HiCap DR - which I’m using - or maybe SuperCap DR too, etc)
Thank you in advance.
Apologies for being slow, it’s a Monday.
R
Think I’ve got the answer
(I’m thinking about this - as much for myself and my own system - so just making sure understand here).
“Pseudo balanced”.
Note to myself: in which case… Maybe need to be a little bit thoughtful about the length of this cable type? Not completely like balanced, which is ambivalent for length, etc ?
Thanks again
R
The 4pin DIN output on the 52 and presumably the 552 is unbalanced. The Designacable converts this to pseudo balanced. The standard Naim din to XLRs are therefore not suitable in this case as they are wired differently.
Designacable have confirmed that a 6m length of their supercap din/xLR is suitable for connecting my 52 to the 20s.
it’s a good job I have a technical background. All this is frying my brain ![]()