‘People are the issue’. That’s some statement!
Just noticed one ticket for Cardiff just gone on popular auction site for starting bid of… £1000 ![]()
As has been said in the previous replies, and is evidenced in many of the threads in this forum, people get many thousands of hours of enjoyment from the HiFi they buy. I haven’t read any posts from people who feel ripped off by their dealers (although there may well be some who do).
I did not try to get tickets for Oasis. I think their first 2 albums are fantastic, but the rest are meh; a few good songs on each, no more. A friend of mine did try. He is very into live music and has plenty of money (lucky / hard working fellah). He spent most of the day trying to get through, when he did, the usuary b******s at ticketmaster wanted £358.10 per ticket. He did not pay. Nobody likes feeling ripped off and dynamic pricing is a rip off. They may call it ‘supply and demand economics’ but whatever language they use, it feels and sounds like a rip off for they very simple reason that it is.
Oasis wanted £358.10, not Ticketmaster.
I’ve got 2 tickets to see Oasis but I’m looking to swap them for an appointment with my GP.
Take your GP with you😉
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Interesting how the majority sentiment on here is dismissive verging on hostile regarding Oasis and the reunion.
Yet they clearly were hugely popular and the hype and demand for tickets points to this enduring.
It’s tempting to think this might reflect a degree of elitism on the forum??![]()
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Which the band themselves would see as vindication of their ‘flick you’ demeanour??
Popularity is a measure of… popularity.
Is it “elitist” to not like stuff because there are very sane reasons for saying that it wasn’t very good.
I like lots of popular stuff because it’s good rather than because it’s popular. I like lots of unpopular stuff because it’s good.
Which one makes me an elitist again?
My thoughts too, well said.
My daughter’s reaction when I told her we had the tickets was worth the money alone, it really was.
Depends how you choose to define ‘good’.
If a substantial aim is to create music that means a lot to a lot of people then you’d have to say Oasis’ output is ‘good’. Other parameters are available…
Yawn
Oh, you haven’t heard about the rail ticket price rises due for trips to Cardiff on the dates then…
A couple of early ditties are good, but worth thousands, I’m not sure ![]()
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We all define “good” differently but not liking something popular dues not make us elitist and more than liking something popular makes us arbiters of “good”.
There’s a good article in The Guardian about dynamic pricing in the live music industry.
I don’t think any of the comments in this thread exhibit ‘elitism’, just opinions and they are always going to be subjective. Not liking something that is popular is not elitism unless your reason for not liking it is that it is popular. As I said in my last post, I like the first two Oasis albums a lot, the rest very much less so (and I have them all on CD as I kept hoping that they would return to form). What I don’t get is why artists allow dynamic pricing. After all, ‘dynamic pricing’ is the ticket touts business model. Why are they allowing their fans to be ‘officially’ fleeced? Greed.
I agree that some artists will continue using dynamic pricing and (in my opinion) fleecing people whilst they can get away with it. Some people really, really, really want to see Oasis live and will pay the inflated sums but does that make them the problem or its victims?
I think the nail has been hit firmly on the head here. Pricing is either fixed or market value and when an artist contracts with Ticketmaster they’ve a variety of models on offer. They can go for Fixed, which nevertheless allows for some relatively small variation, or, they can go market value dynamic which allows for what we saw yesterday. In between like a variety of options, which include fixed until a specific number of sales or amount of demand etc.
Oasis, I believe, went for the latter i.e. fixed then dynamic, but in doing so they of course know exactly what they signed up to and failed to advise applicants. The range of reasonable responses to that certainly includes greed but may also include a simple lack of interest in what fans are charged etc.
Ultimately, debates about the music and its makers aside, it’s not a good luck just as it wasn’t for Springsteen and others.
