Bean to cup coffee machines

Good to hear. The two Dualit toasters I’ve used never got the browning even…I gave up.
Lovely looking thing though.

Not sure why Dualit products are in the spotlight here but I’ll add that my 4 slice Dualit toaster has worked perfectly for the last 10+ years. I also have one of their kettles which, whilst nothing out of the ordinary in terms of robustness appearance, has worked flawlessly for a similar time period. Nowt to get excited about, but no reason to bash either!

Peter

It’s good old Forum thread eclectisism…or drift if you prefer.

I’m still undecided.

Think I might take a trip to some specialist coffee machine outlet and have a look/go…

Well if it tastes fine to you that is all that is important really

But I have a variety of airtight containers I have used. I have a couple of airscape containers. £35-£40 for 1kg capacity. Also have a smaller tin (did have three but left a couple in places by accident) with a valve in the lid bought from atkinsons in Lancaster. And some really small tins that hold 35g or so of coffee each. I gradually migrate from the biggest to the smallest

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I loved he results produced by my first B2C machine, which was by Bosch from John Lewis for £299 - but when it failed within the John Lewis warranty period (and Bosch were not interested in repairing it) John Lewis refunded my money.

That money contributed towards its replacement - an entry level Jura, which was also very good. The problem with Jura, thought, is it doesn’t have a removable Brew Head, meaning that you can never fully clean it. This was the primary reason for its premature demise. When John Lewis attempted to repair it they damaged it further. Result: full refund offered.

Then, I tried a De’Longhi Eletta. That was promptly returned 2 days later as the Cofee produced was so bad. Why? It’s because the Eletta can only produce/use 7g of Coffee, which is no better than that found in Nespresso Classic capsules.

Finally, I bought a Miele CM6310 - with a free 5 year Miele warranty. When the pump failed after 18 months, Miele posted a shipping box to me for the machine to be collected, and which returned after 2 days. The pump failed again at year 4 of ownership. Again, Miele arranged for collection and return all within a working week. Now that the official warranty period is over, I’ve taken a Miele month by month insurance plan. If the machine ever failed and couldn’t be economically repaired they will replace the machine free of charge.

Besides that, with your preferred Coffee Beans the Miele always produces great tasting Coffee. It can utilise up to 11g of Coffee in variable amounts, uses variable hot water temperature, and can use selectable pre-brewing for that perfect Coffee. With a removable Brew Head for easy cleaning, too, I would replace it with another Miele in a heartbeat.

All Miele countertop B2C machines are actually Jura B2C, and manufactured by Jura - but with a Miele badge - and, unlike Jura B2C machines, have removable Brew Heads.

If you go to a specialist dealer I am fairly sure you’d be recommended to buy a separate grinder and an expensive fully manual coffee machine. Few would recommend (or supply) integrated automatic bean to cup machines. I went through all this a year ago and decided I did not want specialist weighing scales, timers, tampers, etc every time I want a coffee. Nor did I want to press a button or use an app to deliver a pre-programmed drink with limited control of my preferences. That’s why I ended up with the Sage Barista Express Impress which was the best compromise for me while not spending a fortune.

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Intresting that Miele machines are really Jura. I have a Jura E8 that has been back once. I said id never biy another ( coffee not hot enough, uses too many expensive cartridges to filter water etc…). I did have my eye on a Miele…

On my second Jura machine , now an E8 , the old one was a bit iffy on electrical bits but lasted 15 years

Wouldn’t hesitate to go Jura again

+1 for Sage. I have the £599 Barista Express which is excellent. As far as I can see, the Impress has built in tamping as opposed to old school using the puck thingy.

John Lewis a decent place to go and look at them all and talk to someone in the know.

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Well that’s a graphic illustration of inflation!! It was abt. £1k when we bought it…

However, Jura do have an online Outlet store on which they sell factory demonstrator models etc- full warranty and as new but maybe without the full new Jura packaging.

I bought an ENA 8 from them this way last year for a second location and it was under £700 ( new c £1.1k) and it has worked really well. Very pleased.

IMO, Jura are also excellent in terms of after sales support and servicing. Our 10+ year old Giga 5 still works really well.
Geoff

I use a DeLonghi Dinamica which is no bad and best of all it’s easy to use as I don’t want to mess about.
I used to own a traditional Italian coffee maker which made a great cup of coffee but took ages to produce and the wife was concerned I’d blow it up.

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Very nice! Happy with it? I had to mess about with the grind and if I change beans I have to again so I usually stick to the one bean type and it always delivers

Atb
Kk

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Only got it this afternoon and made one cup so far, which turned out absolutely fine. Filled it with some Lavazza Rosso beans which are easy and familiar.

Happy compromise between the fully auto types, which I didn’t really fancy and the fully manual which I just know would have meant I was the only one who ever made the coffee!

And at least the black one looks a little less Sage’y than our Sage toaster, Sage kettle and Sage risotto maker/slow cooker…

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I. An confirm I am the only one who makes the coffee. Well thought out!

Atb
Kk

Sage do make nice equipment.

DG…

That’s what I give the builders. The world is full of wonderful roasted beans.

Needs burning in.

@Jamiewednesday
“Filled it with some Lavazza Rosso beans”

Try some freshly roasted (a few days) beans… they really brought my very lowly Sage Bambino up to speed.

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