Bigger or better iPad?

But also I might buy a SH iPad, depending on what new ones and second hand ones offer.

Thanks - this is a worth considering as using an iPad on a train is a pain and very slow and unreliable via my iPhone as a hotspot.

That’s a great tip - and much less hassle and worry than buying SH.

Can you say why that is?

If it’s sitting on a desk or on a pillow on your lap why is the weight a problem?

Surely the extra weight makes it more stable on a desk or table.

I have purchased Apple refurbished products in past in fact I am using my refurbished Mac mini M1 at the moment you can also trade in your old iPad if required my friend got £110 for4 his old 10.5 inch iPad Pro.

Same warranty and after sales as a new product just look upon the Apple website for refurbished iPads and you will see a list of what is available and a trade in value if your old iPad qualifies.

Good idea - but (thinking about it while having a swim just now) I realized that there is something visceral about making chess moves that might not work via a pencil.

Especially because of:

“The touch-move rule in chess specifies that a player, having the move, who deliberately touches a piece on the board must move or capture that piece if it is legal to do so. If it is the player’s piece that was touched, it must be moved if the piece has a legal move.”

On chess.com you just touch the piece you want to move and then touch the square you want to move to - but this direct touching rather than with a pointer or pencil is also more viscerally connected to the process of moving and I doubt that it would improve if I retrained myself to do it via a pointer.

I could try it and see, but it seems unlikely that after years and thousands of games on chess.com that I would enjoy the process of such retraining and also doubtful that it would help me play faster or envisage the relevant patterns and possible moves and their consequences better than they do by touching the screen itself with my finger.

A good tip on your eyes I have Diabetic eyesight problems and to me the pro models are worth the extra due to the far batter scree resolution and the settings that can be achieved.

I sold my old iPad Pro to my sister and a couple of weeks ago I went to helped set up some items she was struggling with I was quite surprised having used my iPad Pro M4 for several months how much better the screen was side by side on the M4 model.

Yo pay your money and take your choice.

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I find it annoying because I hold an iPad in my hands. Also it’s bigger and heavier to carry in a bag when travelling. But everyone uses them differently. All I am saying is that I wouldn’t buy a 12.5” one again.

I never use my iPad while holding it.

If I need to do something onscreen and I’m standing up, I use my phone.

My iPad Pro has 4G and wi-fi. It’s entering its 9th year and, as the battery is no longer replaceable, I’ll be flogging it to death on the mains until forced to replace it. Mrs. H. purchased mine as a gift when she realised my sight loss was struggling with an iPad Air. Some observations.

1 - I am typing on it now. I’m typing right handed whilst holding it with my left. When I take it out then I attach the keyboard/cover and a hard shell back and place it in a Mac Book zip case as they’re the perfect size. With the keyboard cover and shell it’s too heavy. When at home it has nothing attached and for 9 years, held in 1 hand, it has never been too heavy. The left hand which holds it has been subject to wrist surgery and arthritis as well as a significant injury to my little finger. It’s just fine. The decreased bezel on the newer devices gives more screen estate but the newer Pros are lighter again than the originals.

2 - I would not buy an Apple keyboard again. They remain unreliable. However, having tried multiple devices before buying, I would always go with an Apple Pencil ahead of any other device. I’ve several artist and musician friends and all opted for the Pencil. Many people confuse how nice other devices feel in the hand with their actual abilities and sensitivity. The Pencil is no longer miles out in front but it’s certainly out in front.

3 - Armed with a Pencil and an Air you will be fine but there are an awful lot of people who claim the Pro is OTT and you won’t use its full capabilities. Maybe so but you also won’t find many iPad or iPad Air users entering year 9 with their device. The faster processor is likely to give you an extra couple of years at minimum; the battery will last longer and overall the total cost of ownership will usually be less.

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What about sitting back in an easy chair? Or on a train, bus (if you can look at a screenin a bus) etc?

Anyway if you are happy enough using a phone screen then that doesn’t indicate eyesight demand for pro.

If I’m sitting in my listening chair using my iPad, it balances on a stack of 3 or 4 cushions on my lap.

My right eye has a plastic lens thanks to a cataract op, and my left eye is fine if I wear my reading or my screen single-vision lenses.

I could understand that feeling if you were moving a mouse pointer by sliding a mouse around and clicking but with a pencil there is nothing on the screen… it is just a finer tip being used to select the piece than a broad finger.

Wow - I had no idea that iPads that old had 4G chips in them.

4G would be great in an iPad for me for use away from home.

Not sure I buy that as an argument. My sight loss requires a Pro. When out I use a small 12 Mini. Provided I use iOS accessibility settings for stuff like dynamic font sizing and apps have been written with that in mind then all is well.

Thanks, I didn’t know that exists.

I use larger font and bold text settings to make it easier to read - which is great, except that many in many apps (including the Naim app) it means the words often don’t fit in the space allocated and often turn into a mess or disappear.

Just updated gen 3 ipad pro for an ipad pro 13inch, so now on fourth ipad here.

The following is relevant:

  • budget first - plenty of options to stay within budget; refurb from apple ideal, just remember the item will fall outside being updated, a year or two before the latest units. if you have no ability to pass on, then that’s fine, if you can do so, the buying new is a different option
  • the latest and indeed from ipad pro 3 gen onwards, we’re nothing like the weight of the original gens iPads
  • screen size is personal preference but 12.9 or latest 13 inch, is a huge improvement from 9 inch, if you use a tablet regularly.
  • no need for an apple pencil unless you require its functionality; a pointer device, perhaps try, but these can work extremely well in lieu of fingers which don’t do as we would wish, arthritic ones included. That’s why for more critical stuff, iMac here with much bigger non screen, of course, keyboard, but does mean having to have extra devices.
  • iPhone I only use as a phone and for tracking emails - if they require response action, then to the full size keyboard. Even apps aren’t easy if you struggle with inflexible fingers, like Naim app.
  • a bluetooth keyboard can be tethered to an iPad, similarly apple do a much more expensive dedicated keyboard, 7 gen ipads don’t work with the earlier ipad accessory keyboards. the auction site always worth a look-out for accessories.
  • assess carefully hard disk memory for your needs; it can not be added later.

If buying new, John Lewis provide a two year guarantee - which is twice that of Apple!
Yet to try, but would suspect recent iPhone will tether will with latest iPads, avoiding the not cheap cost of adding a sim option to wifi ipads. imho best to add memory against paying for sim capability, provided you have a recent(ish) iphone in the event you need to tether.

One of several reasons I moved away from Naim. Offspring is still within the ecosystem but from an accessibility perspective the app remains poor.

I would add a caveat here. Try using their customer service. It is beyond awful; aggressive and challenging. Every issue you raise is definitely one you caused. I joined a couple of friends in litigating against them and all of us were successful. I have bought many things from them over the years but wouldn’t touch them with a barge pole when it comes to consumer electronics. Apple Care may be as much as a rip off on the surface but the mere act of having it doesn’t half make life easier.