Cable burn in

But that is comparable to saying:

“It is a self-evident truth that the earth is flat, because that is what i see when i look out of the window”.

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Interestingly, about the only thing on which Daoism and Buddhism agree is that our destiny is in our own hands.

This could also simply reflect a limited perspective (in which case it could appear self evident to you at this time, even though it may not appear so to others or to yourself in the past or in the future).

As such it could be valid from a phenomenological perspective (it being impossible to have current experience of another person’s senses or you own from a time other than the present), but not resolve to anything useful from an epistemological perspective when other epistemological aspects are considered.

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This video explains how burn-in works from a psychological standpoint:

As Boudhists say, it’s neither the same, neither another . ( ni le même, ni un autre).
It can apply to burn in. With some humor of course

This is true.
This is why I would argue, along with others, that there is no such thing as knowledge.
All is theory ( and we have our own personal constructs anyway).
All these theories are just waiting to be disproven.

This is not correct…
Local topography is usually not flat anyway, but…
The horizon is curved.
I take into account other information which is available to us all.
No, it is not self-evident that the world is flat.
In fact, I can make out a good case that there is no such thing as flat…there is a very close approximation of flatness.

I’d imagine this would be due to the fact most have demoed the very expensive cables before buying.

The demo cables tend to be well run in cables and the customer buyers the cable (likes it) on the strength of what it sounds like run in. The new cable (potentially) sounds different to the well run in cable at first and as it ages, sounds more like the one they demoed. As a result, sounds better to them after being run in.

I always demo expensive cables prior to buying so I know what I’m getting.

Better is the sound they heard when they demoed the cables and bought them. In other words, they produce a sound the listener likes from the way it performs within their system.

If you buy very expensive cables without demoing then there is a very good chance you may not like what you hear. Personally, I wouldn’t risk it .

It is more likely due to the effect described in the video a few post above, rather than any type of physical cable burn in.

Good question. I remember a specific science website testing the Chord M Scaler and demonstrating that there was no difference in sound through all there known measures at the time. Yet, I and many others will confirm the difference it makes is quite substantial.

That begs the question, do we hear more than we currently understand or are able to measure. We have measuring devices to record the differences of things we know about. We don’t have ways to measure things we don’t know about for obvious reasons.

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In other words, did Quantum Physics exist before Max Planck came up with the formula for Black Body Radiation in the 1900’s or, did they just live life as normal blissfully unaware of its existence?

I’d imagine a lot of people were seeing things they couldn’t explain but couldn’t prove it. Just like some will hear things they can’t explain or prove.

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I don’t see how. All that reaches us from the speakers are sound waves, and we can measure those very accurately - and finding differences between one set of sound waves and another is a cinch. Our ears cannot detect sound waves that our instruments can’t. Quite the opposite.

Based on our current knowledge and understanding. See above about quantum physics. Just because we don’t understand something doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist.

Throughout history the unexplained later becomes the norm.

Just because we don’t understand something doesn’t mean it does exist.

Not sure how you think quantum effects could be involved.

It’s an example of something that has always existed… long before we ever knew about it or, could measure or see it.

All I’m saying is, keep and open mind. A closed mind makes discovering new things extremely difficult.

An open mind is essential - but not so open that your brain falls out.

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Ok… good to dismiss others mental capacity to reinforce your own.

I’ll leave you too it.

It was not intended as a dismissal of your mental capacity. It is a (fairly well-known, I thought) quote. Apologies if you feel insulted.

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Just fyi, this is a logical fallacy called the ‘argument from ignorance’ fallacy, it is related to the ‘burden of proof’ fallacy, also known as ‘Russell’s teapot’:

Russell’s teapot is an analogy, formulated by the philosopher Bertrand Russell (1872–1970), to illustrate that the philosophic burden of proof lies upon a person making unfalsifiable claims, rather than shifting the burden of disproof to others.

Russell specifically applied his analogy in the context of religion. He wrote that if he were to assert, without offering proof, that a teapot, too small to be seen by telescopes, orbits the Sun somewhere in space between the Earth and Mars, he could not expect anyone to believe him solely because his assertion could not be proven wrong.

You cannot see that when looking out the window. To see the curve directly, you need an altitude of ~35,000 when your field of vision is 60 degrees, else you need to be even higher (though at see level you can see a ship appearing gradually as it moves toward you). So litemotiv’s analogy works in the context of looking out the window, I think.

(Of course, this does not prevent flatearthers from making up all kinds of things even though you can see it now in high-altitude photos)

I rather liked the, fairly simple, experiment performed, IIRC, by the early Greeks. You need a reasonably accurate way of telling the time, I think, but what you do is stick a stick vertically in the ground at two very different points in the country - many miles apart - so that the same length of stick is visible above the ground. Measure the lengths of the shadows cast at the same time in each place. They will be different lengths. Do this a few times, and the lengths change, but are not the same. Ignoring the multiple-suns theory, the only way to explain this is by a curved surface.

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