Im very happy with my new naim ci102.
But sometimes I want to change the loudness on the device. Internet radio is usually a bit more bass heavy. (At least the stations that i listen to). For internet radio I use the weak level.
For streaming services i use medium.
In the naim app I can set loudness to on or off. In the windows program (focal and naim manager) you can set the loudness from weak to strong. But i dont want to use my laptop everytime.
What I like to have is a (api) link that i can use to set the loudness level. Or better, have it in the naim app. But for now i will be happy with an api link. Then i create a shorcut to it on my phone to set the level.
Naim probably won’t see your request, so I’ve copied it to their developers via the Beta forum. Don’t assume anything will happen but it’s probably the best chance of them being aware.
The idea of the “loudness” facility is to provide compensation for your ears’ naturally reducing sensitivity to bass as sound level reduces (also upper extremity of treble, but that is usually less noticeable). It is not actually intended as a tone control for collection of missing bus on recordings, though of course it can also be used to do that. It is a very crude function, on or off, or I gather in this case two levels of on. (Off would be a flat response, at least nominally.)
Because of the normal design function function of a “loudness” switch, anticipated practice would be to turn it on or off, or select whatever optional levels there are, according to chosen sound level for a session, rather than altering it between recordings or sources, so the thought of making it alterable on the fly probably wouldn’t occur to a designer., however given that it can be engaged in the way you describe it should be a simple software mod to enhance its selectability.
Well. It is made by the designer to change the loudness level in the windows app. So i hope it could be done by an api call.
I know the background of loudness. As an audiophile its somehow not done to use it. On my nsc 222 nap 250 system i dont need or want it. But on the ci102 its there and i am happy with it.
And personally I think that is a pity, though to be any good in a hifi system the circuitry or processing would have to not have an adverse effect on sound quality -the reason behind abandonment of any form of tone controls. It would also beed to be keyed to sound level at the listening position, requiring in-room calibration at setup, and to be right at more than just one or two levels of sound if would need to have a variable effect linked to volume control setting (once calibrated), though even that is problematic as sound levels can vary considerably between different recordings. Maybe not surprising not done!
Hi @Picht
We are looking into adding some extra features into the app for CI-Uniti 102, to give access to some of the more frequently adjusted features from the setup application.
This won’t be in version 8.0, as that’s due any day, but it is planned for 8.1.
Unfortunately, the API call would have to be a “put” command which you can’t do from a web link.
However, if you’re inclined to set up a script or a shortcut to run a curl command, you can use:
curl -X PUT 192.168.xx.xx:15081/outputs?loudness=1
(Loudness value being 1, 2 or 3)
I believe there are some apps that can send PUT requests if you want to do this from your phone.
Well that is great! Tested this from my linux box with curl and it works.
Is there a public list of things what you can do? NogBadTheBad has also a way to turn his nsc222 on or off, which is also nice. But how do we get to know these url’s?
And can you give away some information of what the extra features will be?
Glad to hear that’s working well!
There isn’t a public list of all of the APIs, but generally if there’s something specific that you’re looking to do, it’s fairly harmless for us to share it.
I don’t actually know which features will be chosen for the app yet, so I’m afraid I don’t have anything to share. The main idea is just to take a few of the more used features from the setup app and make them more easily accessible.
For now i’ve installed “automate” for android and made a http request in there. Then I made 2 “Loudness” shorcuts on my phone. With one tap I can change it. Perfect for me when switching from internet radio to streaming services.
