DIY Vertere Redline RCA to DIN

Hi DIY wizards,
I have Vertere Redline RCA-RCA interconnects from my DAC and Phono Stage to the NAC 282.
Today i modified one of them to RCA-DIN 5 using Viborg Rhodium Din connectors. Reasoning was to follow the recommended Naim philosophy, have fun and also get shorter interconnects. I could get 2 RCA-DIN interconnects out of a single 1.5 m Redline which is great because I now have one spare Redline. So far the sound is at least as good as before.

However, I dont fully understand the wiring of the Vertere Redline. There are three red and three white signal wires and then there is a thick green wire. In the Vertere Rca plugs, the white and green wires are soldered together. In the picture, one white seems to be soldered separately but actually is not and on other Vertere RCA plug they soldered are fully together.

Does any one know what the thick green cable does? Should it have a special place on the Din connector?

On the Din side, I soldered the white and green cables from left and right channels to the third pin (challenging with so many cables, on the picture i have used a red shrink coat on the white+green bulk). The red wires went to ch 1 and 2 respectively.
It sounds very good, but i am unsure whether this is the optimal way.
Also, the Vertere has a shielding which is now floating at both ends. Also unsure about whether this is optimal.

Any advice would be great.



Just guessing. Ansuz, Nordost and few others have small cables twisted around the outside of the cable to lower the inductance since low inductance means better flow and more music. Vertere might do something similar.

Ansuz cable.

Interesting. the Redline, the green cable runs in the center bundle with the other cables.

Just found out that, consistently one of white wires is soldered separately on the source side, while on the preamp side all whites and the green are together. However, since they alway end up on the gold plated Rca connector chassis, i dont understand the functional significance of this. That said, i am far away from having any intellectual qualifications in electronics.


Soldering on the centre pin looks really dry. :-1:t2:
looks like a jumbled way to increase wire gauge. :thinking:

On the Din connector? The best i could do 3 am in the morning.
The RCAs are all Vertere’s fault…

No compromise if it’s not right it’s not right.
Every excuse won’t make it better.
Only pointing out my opinion as I’m sure that’s why you posted the pictures.
Only trying to help. :+1:t2:

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Much appreciated. Just wasn’t sure whether you were refering to the Din or the Rca’s

Both centre pins.
But the multiple wiring to same points must only be to increase the mass or gauge in a way of the conductors…
Does seem strange and over complicated :thinking:

The three wires are probably constructed from different guage.

This does make me wonder about the quality of the work that goes into some of these cables for such a high price.

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Just to make sure I understand correctly. The RCA connectors and center pins are the original Vertere ones. I havent done any modifications to those. The Din plug i soldered is an image in my first post.

Could there a sonic reasoning to increase gauge asymmetrically and not for RCA center pin as well?
Or may be just a mechanical reason to do this asymmetrical? More difficult to solder so many cables to the Rca center pin, may be?

Quite sobering… The Redline does sounds really good IMO. Is the engineering worth 900 Euro? Hmmm…

To be honest IMO it’s a way to make the cable look technically superior to the unqualified to make them look more valuable than they are.
Single multistrand conductors would do as good a job and much easier to make.
:thinking:

Maybe the wires are different gauge. :grin:

Agreed, don’t worry I have been there too and spent thousands…I can sort of accept some of the power blocks being expensive (e.g. the Ansuz ones seem to have some valid engineering in them); but I do think the cables are daylight robbery! They must be operating at 99%+ gross margin on most of these cables!!!

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Bundled together makes then one whether insulated or not it’s the termination that determines the quality of the join.
And no disrespect to @Emrah even the ones he hasn’t touched are very poor IMO .
Thats the gamble technical know how or trust the salesman.
I prefer to learn. :wink: :+1:t2:

If it’s all they do it can’t be anything else.
The percentages are much higher. :face_with_hand_over_mouth:
Hi Fi Jewellry and Handbags.
IMHO :+1:t2:

Thanks. I can now officially say that my soldering matches Vertere standards :sweat_smile:

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This is obviously true, but irrelevant to the discussion regarding number of wire.

If the wires are different gauge, there may be good reason, which I doubt you or I know what it is. :crazy_face: