Extra sockets on a dedicated 10mm Radial, or a Distribution Block?

My Hi-Fi equipment is on a dedicated radial circuit and the router, mesh node and switches on the house ring mains.

DG…

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My network gear is all on a “MCRU 6 WAY AUDIOPHILE MAINS BLOCK | LAPP CABLE | SILVER PLATED PLUG | 1 METRE” which connects to the house ring main. For the price, I feel it is good enough. Keep the HiFi on a dedicated 10mm2 circuit.

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Thanks @GadgetMan It appears that the general opinion is to keep Switches, Routers etc… away from hifi components.:+1:

You could try this if you decide to add additional sockets. You can then compare the standard socket to this one although both may be in use at the same time.

If adding more than one extra socket to the radial you will need a fused spur.

As far as I’m aware, that is the case for a Ring circuit, but provided the cable is the same size, a Radial can have many as you want. Provided of course you don’t exceed the CCC.
I have a 4mm Radial in my kitchen with 8 double sockets.

@Richard.Dane Please could you tell me why my post has been moved from Hi-Fi Corner to ‘Lounge’?
I put the post in Hi-Hi Corner because that is where other mains Distribution Block/Power Block posts are.

That’s correct DJM.
A radial circuit does not normally have a fused spur box
A fused spur box is a ring circuit item when a spur is taken off the ring.

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Generally I move any thread that is to do with the mains to the lounge.

Needless to say, I would strongly recommend anyone who is considering any electrical work to take any forum advice with caution and to seek out advice from a qualified electrician, fully conversant with current electrical code for your region.

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Hi @Skeptikal
In my last message I forgot to ask you, as you made your own Distribution Block, did you also make your own mains leads? If so, what materials did you use?

BTW…I see that you have a Target TT4 rack. I have the TT5. I’ve have it since 1990, the bloody thing just won’t die! :smiley:

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@DJM
Hi yes I make my own iec leads as well.
IEC Leads.

MK tough plugs MK 655WHI
Bussmann 13A fuses
Doncaster 3 Core Rubber Flexible Cable
3183TRS 1.5mm2 Black
IEC Connector c13 10a Martin Kaiser 794
All no nonsense and fully compliant UK regs. :+1:

The target rack is superb and easy for cable dressing etc.
Much better than anything I’ve seen these days. :+1:

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Cheers @Skeptikal. What a very helpful guy you are. Thank you.

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@DJM
You’re welcome mate that’s what it’s about.
Helping out and sharing no nonsense info.
All these things are common sense and remember if you don’t fancy making them yourself you can always get a qualified electrician to do them.
I say this for safety but it’s very DIY and fully regulation compliant for UK :+1:

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As far as I’m aware, that is the case for a Ring circuit, but provided the cable is the same size, a Radial can have many as you want. Provided of course you don’t exceed the CCC.
I have a 4mm Radial in my kitchen with 8 double sockets.

DJM it would be interesting to know your source for your “as many as you want” observation for a single spur. I simply raise it as a question, but at the back of my mind, iirc there is a limitation.
Second the three sockets from a spur in your first diagram, requires clarification, else it is confusing, if not misleading, imho. A fused spur would normally be for a fixed appliance, which has been wired to a single socket and where an isolating switch is required or where the unit can’t readily be plugged into a socket on the ring.

You are correct, there is a limitation. I was just saying that I had 8 sockets on a kitchen Radial, (Not including the hob or oven, which have their own 6mm FCU) so having 3 sockets on my 10mm dedicated Hi-Fi Radial is not a problem.
I just took those diagrams off the web as an example. They don’t represent anything I’ve got.

Appreciate your response. I think mixing a discussion about radial circuits with illustrations of ring circuits is likely to be confusing to those who are not clear on the regs.
Few sparkles are likely to be willing to go out on a limb, given that they can be inspected at any time.
Whatever the merits or otherwise of the diagram, lifted from the web, its source is not it appears, from any regulatory or trade body. There is also the issue of copyright, so you may need to confer with @Richard.Dane as to whether the diagram needs clarification or to remain.

Without total context of why a radial should be installed for anything other than, or even for, a dedicated hi fi circuit, together with age, certification et al, a topic such as this, is one for a competent professional.
On the basis of the latest regs, I expect some sparkies will be wary of a radial circuit.

@DJM , I feel that the diagram may well need some accreditation even though it’s probably fine to post it (fair use).

I Have seen where it may well have come from, and I also note what the author states;
Non-fused spur can only have one twin socket or one fixed appliance and a fused spur can have as many sockets as you require but care should be taken to ensure that the total load does not exceed the 13A fuse within the switched or unswitched-fused connection unit. This 13A max load may be okay in a conservatory but not in the kitchen. The total number of spurs should not exceed the total number of sockets on the ring.

I don’t know how accurately this relates to current code for the UK though, but on the basis of the site, would assume it’s compliant.

As ever, this forum is not the place for getting mains advice. For that you should seek the services of an accredited electrician familiar with code requirements for your area.

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Hi Richard…I really did only post the pics to show the two types of circuits that we were chatting about. I wasn’t meaning to prove, or infer anything. I chose the pics at random. I have edited my post.

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