Can anybody confirm which model this is? The one in the photo has the little overload LED on the baffle inset. Apparently it’s a Q10 and the quoted specs coming with it suggest the same.
However, when visiting the Guru site, the Q10 does not have the LED and it seems to have a tweeter mesh rather than the bar guard on the one on the picture?
@Adam1 is the guru specialist.
Hi,
The QM and Q designations are a little bit loose and the speaker had / has a number of incremental changes in between model numbers.
The tweeter on this one resembles the original QM10 which has a vifa (from memory) tweeter and the cover that is shown on the picture.
However the original QM10 mk1 only came on a Matt finish and the binding posts were slightly different to the better finished mk1.5 that seemed to be the one that hit the market in more numbers. I had the black mirror equivalent of what this pic is showing.
I then bought the Mk2 (kept both) and the tweeter was a straight dome and no cover or mesh, this continued for some time.
I think part way through the Mk2 version they dropped the “m” of the qm model name (stood for quality monitor). Using just the Q in the model and also introduced the first Junior, which used all the same drive units as the mk1 / 1.5.
Erik (the owner) took my Mk1.5’s back and brought them up to latest spec (probably at mk4.5 status now) with all new drivers and crossover. Also the little led is now disconnected from the crossover and not on a brand new pair.
Good news is that no matter what designation they all sound great. I actually always slightly preferred my 1.5’s to the 2’s, and I sold the 2’s to a mate where they sound top drawer in a difficult environment acoustically.
Ones in the pic I would say are 1.5’s.
The main driver and tweeter changed on the mk2, the driver on that has more of a sort of woven construction (bit like a lighter B&W one from the yellow period) whereas this one is more flat paper pulp.
Hope that helps.
Cheers FR, these little beauties have definitely worked their charms on me over the decades.
My last post was slightly inaccurate, the mk2’s were call Qm10Twos.
Hifi choice article covers the differences and picture attached of my original 1.5’s but with latest drivers and crossover to current spec.
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Look identical to my QM10 which from Adam’s useful timeline information are the 1.5 version. Interesting footnote is with NSS 333 as source into NN50 the led rarely appears despite 9-10 o clock volume settings. It used to with Uniti 1 into CD input of late NN 2.
And they sound wonderful
Guru used to refer to the LED as more as a qualitative indicator than a quantity, I don’t claim to understand how or if I believe it but I did find as the electronics improved it took more volume before it used to blink. I actually used to find it useful to know when I might want to just back it off a touch.
Only ever an issue when an attack of AC/DC occured. I would like to say I never heard a deterioation in sound but it was AC/DC loud so how would I tell………….
I did run my two pairs sat atop each other and bi-amped with Densen, the sense of scale and dynamics was incredible.
If they had both been of the same configuration could have been an interesting setup.
Pic below, sounded more cohesive with top speaker upside down so tweeters were closer together.
Can also see the tweeter and driver differences in the pic between QM10 Mk1.5 and QM10Twos, with the tweeter the most obvious and matching the OP’s pic.
Then a pair of the big boys the Qm60 that I had on home dem.
Talk about confusing. Thanks all for the helpful feedback, 1.5 it is.
I like the look of the Qm60. Tell us more when you will have listened enough.
This was a couple of years ago FR, they were very interesting. When launched they were pitched into the B&W801 Nautilus type space at around £8K.
They were fabulously fast and retained all the little Guru timing. I only didn’t pull the trigger as I was concerned about spending out on an older speaker (they were launched in 2014) and the serviceability of them given there is no dealer network anymore in the UK.
My concerns were somewhat well founded as it was a little while after demoing them that my original QM10’s had a tweeter go and then sat on the sidelines for a while. It wasn’t until I bought my current Guru 12’s that Erik said he could repair them and bring them up to current spec, which he did and they sound superb.
Sending the big old Q60’s back to Upsaler would have been a costly affair and not sure they even have the drivers for them anymore as they didn’t shift them in any volume.
I think its the world of a small manufacturer who likes to constantly improve things. When you see a genuine MK1 you know it, alot more hairshirt and less professionally finished, maybe near pre production.
Have you heard Guru 28, 20, 12?
only aditional comment is the white tops are prone to scratching when members of the family think its a good idea to dump metal items like keys on them 
I have a pair of the 12’s, excellent speakers, they need more room to do their stuff than the Q10’s.
As in a larger room as opposed to further away from walls, in that respect you position them the same as all Gurus, close to the wall with quite a lot of toe in.
Fabulously dynamic speakers full of fun.
Is it a kind of rooster joke.? It could be .
Apologies @Richard.Dane for the link.
Why so?
