# Happy with the new Naim update

**URL:** <https://community.naimaudio.com/t/happy-with-the-new-naim-update/36834>\
**Category:** Streaming Audio\
**Created:** [September 28, 2024, 10:46am UTC](https://community.naimaudio.com/t/happy-with-the-new-naim-update/36834 "2024-09-28T10:46:46Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![marcusman](https://community.naimaudio.com/user_avatar/community.naimaudio.com/marcusman/32/192287_2.png) [@marcusman](https://community.naimaudio.com/u/marcusman)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2024, 8:50pm UTC](https://community.naimaudio.com/t/happy-with-the-new-naim-update/36834/41 "2024-09-29T20:50:00Z")

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> [@IainO](#):
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> Joni Anderson

Nice! I just learned something new today. 🙂

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**Author:** ![IainO](https://community.naimaudio.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/i/e5b9ba/32.png) [@IainO](https://community.naimaudio.com/u/IainO)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2024, 8:56pm UTC](https://community.naimaudio.com/t/happy-with-the-new-naim-update/36834/42 "2024-09-29T20:56:27Z")

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I remember when we first upgraded to 252 and SWMBO said “I just heard a glass being put down on a table”.

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**Author:** ![marcusman](https://community.naimaudio.com/user_avatar/community.naimaudio.com/marcusman/32/192287_2.png) [@marcusman](https://community.naimaudio.com/u/marcusman)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2024, 8:58pm UTC](https://community.naimaudio.com/t/happy-with-the-new-naim-update/36834/43 "2024-09-29T20:58:32Z")

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I think I’ll spin ‘Blue’ and ‘Court and Spark’ tonight

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**Author:** ![IainO](https://community.naimaudio.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/i/e5b9ba/32.png) [@IainO](https://community.naimaudio.com/u/IainO)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2024, 9:00pm UTC](https://community.naimaudio.com/t/happy-with-the-new-naim-update/36834/44 "2024-09-29T21:00:02Z")

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Go Dutch!

The recent Newport album, whilst very different, shows her longevity.

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**Author:** ![Kryptos](https://community.naimaudio.com/user_avatar/community.naimaudio.com/kryptos/32/90843_2.png) [@Kryptos](https://community.naimaudio.com/u/Kryptos)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2024, 6:22am UTC](https://community.naimaudio.com/t/happy-with-the-new-naim-update/36834/45 "2024-09-30T06:22:43Z")

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> [@Alley\_Cat](#):
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> Ok, bloody hell, what an improvement.

My exact reaction when I first installed the Beta a while ago 😁

Even 44/16 Tidal sounds rather better than before.

I think there are good reasons for.

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**Author:** ![Devilinthedetail](https://community.naimaudio.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/e19b73/32.png) [@Devilinthedetail](https://community.naimaudio.com/u/Devilinthedetail)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2024, 6:59am UTC](https://community.naimaudio.com/t/happy-with-the-new-naim-update/36834/46 "2024-09-30T06:59:15Z")

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Yes! Free upgrade 😃 Music is grabbing me and pulling me in a little more than usual. I seem to suddenly have a bit more of everything I like. Early days perhaps but everything seems to be in a bit more of a hurry. JJ Cale’s After Midnight for instance might have lost some of it a laid back languid groove. I’d be interested if anyone else feels the same way.

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**Author:** ![HungryHalibut](https://community.naimaudio.com/user_avatar/community.naimaudio.com/hungryhalibut/32/325010_2.png) [@HungryHalibut](https://community.naimaudio.com/u/HungryHalibut)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2024, 7:16am UTC](https://community.naimaudio.com/t/happy-with-the-new-naim-update/36834/47 "2024-09-30T07:16:18Z")

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Richard mentioned on another thread that it should be available this week.

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**Author:** ![Mike\_S](https://community.naimaudio.com/user_avatar/community.naimaudio.com/mike_s/32/290893_2.png) [@Mike\_S](https://community.naimaudio.com/u/Mike_S)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2024, 7:35am UTC](https://community.naimaudio.com/t/happy-with-the-new-naim-update/36834/48 "2024-09-30T07:35:11Z")

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I ran the updates today. What’s with the “new radio” - is it just the layout of the ‘internet radio” - I’m not seeing a Naim radio as such, just new layout tabs etc.

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**Author:** ![HungryHalibut](https://community.naimaudio.com/user_avatar/community.naimaudio.com/hungryhalibut/32/325010_2.png) [@HungryHalibut](https://community.naimaudio.com/u/HungryHalibut)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2024, 8:01am UTC](https://community.naimaudio.com/t/happy-with-the-new-naim-update/36834/49 "2024-09-30T08:01:04Z")

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This is a really significant change, whereby Naim are hosting the iRadio service themselves, rather than relying on vtuner. As well as hopefully greater reliability it gives access to better streams in some cases, and to improved metadata where available. The longer term plan is to enable users to add stations via the App.

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**Author:** ![Stephen\_Tate](https://community.naimaudio.com/user_avatar/community.naimaudio.com/stephen_tate/32/429403_2.png) [@Stephen\_Tate](https://community.naimaudio.com/u/Stephen_Tate)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2024, 8:06am UTC](https://community.naimaudio.com/t/happy-with-the-new-naim-update/36834/50 "2024-09-30T08:06:37Z")

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Wow, i have just installed the latest update on my NDX 2 and have to say that i’m rather impressed with the sound quality streaming from Tidal Max. What a lovely surprise. Thank you to all who were involved in bringing this to fruition.

'Appy days! 👍

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**Author:** ![Mike\_S](https://community.naimaudio.com/user_avatar/community.naimaudio.com/mike_s/32/290893_2.png) [@Mike\_S](https://community.naimaudio.com/u/Mike_S)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2024, 8:08am UTC](https://community.naimaudio.com/t/happy-with-the-new-naim-update/36834/51 "2024-09-30T08:08:52Z")

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Well, that all sounds very nice. I don’t seem to use the internet radio that much, so it will be nice to play with it a bit more.

With some local streaming from the Core the sound quality seems to have had a good lift on the ND555, more open with a more sparkly top end. The ongoing mystery of firmware versions affecting sound quality. I’d start a thread, but we all know how that would go….

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**Author:** ![HungryHalibut](https://community.naimaudio.com/user_avatar/community.naimaudio.com/hungryhalibut/32/325010_2.png) [@HungryHalibut](https://community.naimaudio.com/u/HungryHalibut)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2024, 8:11am UTC](https://community.naimaudio.com/t/happy-with-the-new-naim-update/36834/52 "2024-09-30T08:11:38Z")

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The App does not affect SQ, but the firmware does. Firmware can be tuned to get the desired sound.

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**Author:** ![Mike\_S](https://community.naimaudio.com/user_avatar/community.naimaudio.com/mike_s/32/290893_2.png) [@Mike\_S](https://community.naimaudio.com/u/Mike_S)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2024, 8:13am UTC](https://community.naimaudio.com/t/happy-with-the-new-naim-update/36834/53 "2024-09-30T08:13:12Z")

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Ah yes, I think I meant that 🕶

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**Author:** ![anon77199223](https://community.naimaudio.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/6bbea6/32.png) [@anon77199223](https://community.naimaudio.com/u/anon77199223)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2024, 3:04pm UTC](https://community.naimaudio.com/t/happy-with-the-new-naim-update/36834/54 "2024-09-30T15:04:30Z")

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> [@Alley\_Cat](#):
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> There’s a huge soundstage (vertically, horizontally with depth), oodles of detail I’ve not heard before especially in high frequencies, instruments have timbre that’s long been missing.
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> I can follow drum patterns, vocals far more easily, there’s slam and weight to percussion I don’t recall since early LP12/Naim days - thought it was me getting older or not enjoying more modern kit.
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> Immediacy and attack to stringed instruments

Yesterday when I first updated my ND5XS2 it sounded okay, and then got worse than it had been before.

This was probably a mixture of having a bad cold and the disruption of the update.

Expecting the worst, I switched it on this afternoon and was amazed that it sounded so good, just as you describe above.

I’m delighted by the change - it sounds the best it ever has done.

Well done and thank you to @110dB and the team at Naim.

 ![IMG_2552](https://d2ikyu8xyuibjx.cloudfront.net/original/4X/6/1/7/617a925e3c93e10dce6257b3dcc88d6a32754778.jpeg)  
 ![IMG_2553](https://d2ikyu8xyuibjx.cloudfront.net/original/4X/2/5/a/25a041fbf49578f0f75e46c62750fb39ebe6089b.jpeg)

The series of short drum solos that begin about 8 mins into the above track sound very crisp and alive and realistic.

I’d love some clue as to how this is possible. 🙂

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**Post date:** [September 30, 2024, 3:18pm UTC](https://community.naimaudio.com/t/happy-with-the-new-naim-update/36834/55 "2024-09-30T15:18:53Z")

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FLAC 44.1kHz 16-bit is not Tidal Max Jim, it’s the same bitrate as before.

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**Author:** ![Kryptos](https://community.naimaudio.com/user_avatar/community.naimaudio.com/kryptos/32/90843_2.png) [@Kryptos](https://community.naimaudio.com/u/Kryptos)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2024, 3:20pm UTC](https://community.naimaudio.com/t/happy-with-the-new-naim-update/36834/56 "2024-09-30T15:20:10Z")

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From reports (and own experience of it) it seems that also 16/44 Tidal has improved over the previous firmware.

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**Author:** ![anon19832906](https://community.naimaudio.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/839c29/32.png) [@anon19832906](https://community.naimaudio.com/u/anon19832906)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2024, 3:21pm UTC](https://community.naimaudio.com/t/happy-with-the-new-naim-update/36834/57 "2024-09-30T15:21:59Z")

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It’s good if that’s the case, but hi-res isn’t.

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**Author:** ![marcusman](https://community.naimaudio.com/user_avatar/community.naimaudio.com/marcusman/32/192287_2.png) [@marcusman](https://community.naimaudio.com/u/marcusman)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2024, 3:29pm UTC](https://community.naimaudio.com/t/happy-with-the-new-naim-update/36834/58 "2024-09-30T15:29:16Z")

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It’s not just Tidal. I stream from Qobuz in 16/44 and beyond and it sounds fantastic IMHO. I would have been happy just with the Internet Radio update… :-). I’ll trial Tidal Max soon.

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**Author:** ![Sympa](https://community.naimaudio.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/bcef8e/32.png) [@Sympa](https://community.naimaudio.com/u/Sympa)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2024, 3:36pm UTC](https://community.naimaudio.com/t/happy-with-the-new-naim-update/36834/59 "2024-09-30T15:36:55Z")

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I’m happy with new update. But I have a question. I have a subscription to CalmRadio. I see all the channels but can’t ear any Music. Where can I give my user id and password ? Thanx.

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**Author:** ![Kryptos](https://community.naimaudio.com/user_avatar/community.naimaudio.com/kryptos/32/90843_2.png) [@Kryptos](https://community.naimaudio.com/u/Kryptos)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2024, 4:17pm UTC](https://community.naimaudio.com/t/happy-with-the-new-naim-update/36834/60 "2024-09-30T16:17:39Z")

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Hehe yeah I did not want to complicate my response. Also hear it everywhere, even local files.

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