Hicap (non DR) with Nap 250 DR

Hi everyone :slightly_smiling_face:

New here- and new to Naim

I’m trying to leave behind valves and after trying a friends 112/150 thought I’d take the plunge !

I would like to know if it’s possible to run a nap 250DR with a nac202 - basically will the 250DR work with a nonDR Hicap

I’ve bought a 202 and napsc - my speakers are 4ohm andI thought the 250DR would drive them fine :smiling_face_with_sunglasses: - seem to be a lack of psu’s about so wondering if the combo would work

Thanks

I’m a little confused by the question. The 202 requires the hicap to provide power. Any type, or even a flatcap, will be suitable. The 250 then connects to the hicap to get the source signal, not its power.
So the answer is yes the combination of a hicap plus the 202 plus the 250DR will work.

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Thanks

Answered perfectly- I just wasn’t sure if you had to have DR with 250DR - I know nothing about Naim at the moment despite reading loads of stuff here :slightly_smiling_face:

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It can be confusing as some items work independently, some don’t. Lots of help usually available on here though. There are also online manuals for most Naim items, either on the Naim site or on independent sites.

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There is a school of thought that the 202 doesn’t quite gel with a 250DR - the more commonly recommended pairing being the 282/250 combo.

As you already have the 202 you could try a pre-loved 200DR which would be both power supply and power amp - and is the natural partner to your 202. If this sounds good to you you’re sorted, if not you could re-sell at minimal loss and reconsider the HC/250 option but which costs £££ more.

Or sell on the 202 and get the 282 :winking_face_with_tongue::winking_face_with_tongue::winking_face_with_tongue:

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I now realise I should find out what these things actually do!- it all makes sense when you know​:slightly_smiling_face:

I did read that in some threads- my twisted logic is see if the 250DR works well with my speakers and then get the 282 when I sell my other gear​:+1:

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Hi yes you are right it can be very confusing when it comes to what goes with what, how the hierarchy works, real and folklore and the fact that you need to use your own judgement and ears

Welcome to the forum and I hope your own journey to enjoyment will be as fun as ours

Currently our system swims against the, we have a lovely pre owned 250DR with Chome Bumper Non DR Hi Cap, 102 with NAPSC fronted by a CDX/XPS.

Opinion has it that the pre-amp is well out of its depth with 250DR, we replaced our 200 with the 250DR and it has been a revelation, extended listening time and more music. I agree that there coul be gains with a higher level pre-amp but we prefer to buy more music and explore our extensive collection before drawing a conclusion if anything is missing . We also found that our 1999 Naim Intro’s are better controlled than with the 200 although again not exactly everyone’s choice

Hicap”s apparently are becoming scarce and we have had ours since 1984, serviced as and when required .

Good luck with your journey but please take the well informed opinions as a guide and use your ears.

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I don’t agree. It may well be received wisdom that a Nac 202 and a 250 DR don’t match but when the 202 is paired with a hicap and Napsc it is a fine pre-amp and works great with a 250dr in the right overall system.

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That’s good to know​:slightly_smiling_face:

Hopefully I will be able to give my opinion on the pairing by the end of the week :crossed_fingers:

Well, I can say for certain that a 202/NAPSC/HiCap sounds great with a 250. I used that combo for a while, and moved on later to a 282. The upgrade wasn’t motivated at the time for lack of ‘gelling’ or even for the sound improvement of a 282, so much as for the mono control on the 282 (I have a ton of mono records).

A 202/250 combination sounds just fine. Yes, a 282 is better, but I don’t buy the statement that a 202 (with a NAPSC and HiCap) doesn’t gel with a 250. It sounded great for me, and that’s from personal experience.

Also, in terms of a Naim amp gelling with anything, it’s really the speakers that need to be considered more than the preamp, IMHO. In my journey starting with a 202/250 I would never have considered a 200. It just doesn’t have the grunt to deal with the speakers I had at the time (Dynaudio Contour S3.4). They might have sounded OK with a 200, but the 200 would quite likely stumble with the music I listen to (like large scale orchestral music), while the 250 had the grip and grunt I needed. The 202/250 combination was much more appropriate, and I believe that to this day: amp must be considered in context of the speakers it’s driving.

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Just an update

Finally got everything up and running 202/250DR/Hicap/Napsc

Had to wait for a friend to come to the rescue with a 5pin din to RCA

All sorted

Listening to music which is great after a very long time not bothering at all :+1:

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