HiFi Friendly Electricians in London

Ealing borough

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Thanks Richard for the advice.
I will be looking around for a good local Naim dealer once my system arrives.

I’d suggest getting in touch with Infidelity in Hampton Wick or Grahams in north London. Both are good dealers and hopefully can help you out.

Thanks for that HH

:small_blue_diamond:@sbilotta,…Some simple advice on the road.

Which you can also ask your electrician…or trader,to see if he/she is knowledgeable within this with dedicated mains to a music-system.

• You have 3 phases,.ask your electrician to use the phase that has the least electrical load.

• Also ask your electrician to use a phase for your dedicated mains to the music-system…
Where Refrigerator and similar equipment are NOT CONNECTED.

• That your electrician connects your dedicated mains cable to the music-system,.so close to the incoming main cable in the “fuse-cabinet” (it’s called something else in the UK) as possible.

• Ask around which cable sounds best,.it is sound quality differences even on cables for dedicated mains.
This lacks many,many traders,.as well as most electricians experience about.
But ask around,.so that you know what to install for cable.

-Richard.Dane does not want that we give advice on good cables here for fixed installation,.this is because of,.that different countries have different regulations.
But someone here on the forum from the UK,.may have tested and can give you a suggestion for a good cable…for the best soundquality for your dedicated mains.
This based on listening tests,.not technical specifications :wink:.

Here in Sweden we have tested different cables for dedicated mains,.and there are big differences.
But I have to respect Richard.Dane and be silent about this test-results on the forum.

• Socket without switch,.and of good quality.
Again,.ask around,there can be big differences in soundquality.
I cannot give you any suggestion,.this is because you in the UK have a different kind of contacts.

And it is a pity,.because we have just completed a major test on this with sockets and contacts.

• Ask your electrician to avoid sharp angles,.as he bends your dedicated mains cable.

• Ask your electrician not to tighten the wires so hard,.so that he gets “blood-taste” in his mouth (finds no other way to describe it)…it sounds worse.

• Ask your electrician to keep your dedicated mains cable as isolated as possible from other mains cables,.it sounds better.

• Ask your electrician to connect the cable as it is,.do not use “crimp-sleeves”, “forks” or solder in the cable-end…It sounds worse.
Hope this was right,.can be understood in English.

This above,.is a few simple advice for you how to get the most optimum installation possible.

:red_circle: But remember that it is your electrician who shall perform all of this.

You may be prepared for some to dismiss this advice,.or to laugh at it.
But it’s just out of ignorance,.they haven’t tested,so don’t bother with it.

There are some more little things to keep in mind,.but we’ll stay here at the moment.

Good luck…

Peder, your list is madness, give that to any electrician & thats exactly what they would think & probably refuse the job.
Qualified electricians in UK are professionals & they will do their job around the regulations that apply.

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A timely reminder to members - Please, where electrical installation advice is given, would members only give detailed advice where you are fully conversant with the electrical code applicable to the region being discussed. Even then, I will moderate posts as advice given, although done with the best of intentions, can have unintended consequences, particularly where codes from different regions give apparently contradictory recommendations. Just remember that what works well and may be allowed under the electrical code of one region, my not work so well, may be forbidden, or even dangerous to life or property in another region where a different electrical code is followed.

Naim Audio cannot be held in any way responsible for any advice given erroneously on here by members of this forum.

You can only change phase by digging a large hole in the road and changing the connection from your house to a different cable. I’d suggest that this is impractical.

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:small_blue_diamond:@Mike-B,…I say the same thing to you as you said to me…“can you please find something else to do?”.

As I said…

…and you where one of them :grin::joy::grin:.

:small_blue_diamond:Mike-B,…Just like in Sweden,.or do you have the “bad taste” to claim that our electricians in Sweden are not professional…???

You appear to be very unidirectional and very conservative,.the word “openminded” feels very distant.
I have in the morning today,.had a meeting with the head of Boden’s largest electric firm,his employees install dedicated mains to the music-system according to my “list”.

He has done so for many years,.he says…“I can’t understand why it’s a difference to the better in soundquality,.but it is.”

• Mike-B,…I would prefer if you ended up with your rude posts against me,.that should be enough now…even you should realise that.

I have Never begun to be rude to you,.but you are it all the time against me.
And when I shall respond to your insults,.Yes,then Richard moderates my post but yours remain.
So I hope this answer to you will remain.

:small_orange_diamond: Mike-B,.you may simply have to accept,.that I have a different experience than you in some areas in this interest.
I am one of the more well-known and experienced people in this interest in Sweden.

Many people usually joke with me and say that I should change profession,.and instead start to travel around the world and install music-systems…And yes,.I’m so good.
With that said,.I know what I’m talking about.

But despite that,.I have learned a lot from many here,that is how it should be.
And when you give advice based on experience,.well then you shouldn’t have to be ridiculed by some on this forum.

:small_orange_diamond:It is no “coincidence” that the now well-known “LP12-Radikal Problem” was discovered by us in our group.
No other of the world’s LP12 owners discovered this…We did.!!

And,.if you have nothing positive to contribute with,.I would wish you avoided my threads.
You rarely start your own threads,.but you have always comments on how I write in my threads.
• How I write.
• If I enlarge the text.
• If I use emojis.
• If I put in pictures.
• If I post information from Sweden etc,etc…

Yes.the list can be made much longer.
Don’t you realize what you are doing,.it starts to be…to say the least,.pathetic.

As I said,.I have a lot of experience,I have received the nickname “Hifi-Professor” in Sweden :grin:.,and I try to share this with all on this forum.
Not so much because of language-problems.
If it does not fit you,.or if you are teasing on what I write.
Stop reading my threads…“As Simply As That”.

I do not understand why you’re trying to “put yourself” on others…Me.!

Finally,.my advice in the “list” above works,.and provides better soundquality,it’s just for you to accept.
Even if you lack the experience of having tested.

Now I hope this is the last time you are rude to me.
And if I’m going to be really honest,.I haven’t met on a more rude person on the Internet.
Every time I see a post from you in any of my threads,.I get a “lump in my belly”…And start thinking,what is it for impertinence against me this time.
So,.according to me,you are far from the best representative of the English people,.but everyone can improve themselves…I hope :wink:.

:small_blue_diamond:So Mike-B,.I hope you can draw some inferences of what I written…
Do you do that…I stretch out a hand.
If you do not…I hope that our paths distinguish here,.and that you avoid my threads.

Thanks for the word.

:black_small_square:Ps: Hope Richard.Dane now allows this to remain.
I think I have the right to comment on all attacks.


Most residential properties in the UK don’t have 3 phase supplies - just some of the larger ones.



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Peder, you seem to completely misunderstand.
I have not insulted you, I have just simply, & in a lot less words & emotion, suggested that your advice is misguided. And as per Richards post today, “would members only give detailed advice where you are fully conversant with the electrical code applicable to the region being discussed”.
That’s all my post is saying -

:small_blue_diamond:@anon4489532,…:grin::joy::grin: I can definitely agree with you.
In Sweden we have 3 phases into each house.

:small_blue_diamond:@davidhendon,…I did not know,.Interesting.

I understand now that Hungryhalibut talked about the same thing.
I just knew that our electrical-systems are different,.that’s why I referred to Mike-B and Hungryhalibut.
But when nobody wanted to give concrete advice,.so I thought I write a list…
This is based on how we have it in Sweden…so then the OP can pick what he can use from that list.


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:small_blue_diamond:@Mike-B,…And what do you think this below is,.just to take one example.
Do you mean that it is an adult behavior against another person.

• You started your last message to me by typing…
:small_orange_diamond:"can you please find something else to do?”.

This above,.you have later removed from your post.

But Mike-B,.I’m not going to discuss this any more.
The message to you is in my long post.
Now it is up to you,if you can draw conclusions from it,.if you do not have that ability,well then it will be as below…

:black_small_square:If you do not…I hope that our paths distinguish here,.and that you avoid my threads.


For the benefit of the OP:

Split the tails with a Henley block.
Install a separate consumer unit.
Fit with type C breaker. Mine is 50 amp but regs may have changed.
Run new earth back to meter. Do not piggy back from existing consumer unit.
Use 10mm2 cable in unbroken run from new consumer unit to unswitched MK socket.

That’s all there is to it!!


Nicely summarized :slight_smile:

or nicely defused (excuse the pun).

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Hi there ,

Saj at AudioVenue , a Naim dealer in Ealing is a very helpful chap who will be able to point you in the right direction I’m sure . I’ve had similar chats with him in the past .

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Thanks Pete, very convenient.

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