How much gear do you have? And where do you keep the boxes?

I omitted to respond on boxes in first post:

In the first half of my hifi journey I didn’t keep any, then I started to on the occasions I had them, but probably have reatainedonly about 9 boxes in total over the years (not all secondhand gear came with boxes), with probably only 4 boxes at resent.. Other than speaker boxes I simply put in the loft in previous houses, with other boxes kept in case of product sale or return, in present house it is an eaves cupboard as the small loft is near stuffed with mineral wool. Speaker boxes, from my present and immediately previous, have been huge, so I collapsed them, with foam bundled separately, and stored in the shed as they too large to get into the eaves space. Having kept the boxes was beneficial when I sold my last speakers, not only maximising value but also protecting while shipping both 50+kg bohemoths into eastern EU, though it took several rolls of parcel tape supplemented by a full roll of gaffer tape strapping and several hours to prepare them for travel!

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Thanks F-Z, could you elaborate? I can see that the staples have been removed and replaced by the previous owner, but am crucially aware that they provide the structural strength across the join for these 62kg leviathans!

Breaking down boxes is an option that I’ve never considered - I know I’ll do it wrong and just ruin them

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The few staples used to shut the flaps at the top and bottom of a box obviously have to be removed just to get a box open. They don’t really provide structural support.

That line of lots of staples that runs down one (on some boxes two) of the sides, can be left as is. When you flatten the box, you fold it along the edges without the staples. The end result is the flattened box has a row of staples down the middle. If you are creating a new fold in the cardboard that wasn’t there before, you’re doing it wrong.

I’ve done this on countless boxes. And reused them many times and they are all neat and tidy and show no signs of even being flattened.

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Great thread Maury!

To answer your original Q:- all of the above.

I did post a picture taken in my loft from a while back - I may edit this post shortly to show it again here.

Update Edit: Found the previous picture taken in the loft showing boxes…

Also, in a future post I might add another picture showing the recent changes.

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Thanks for that F-Z. It’s the big staples across the bottom flaps that are troubling me; sorry, I should have said that before!

Honestly, tape will be as strong. If you’re worried you can run a strap of additional tape across the middle perpendicular to the flaps. I never have and I’ve not lost a 250 or a pair of speakers yet.

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We have five small boxes in the loft. One for the Atom HE, one for the speakers, and three for the Qbs. I’ve never kept anything not in use. The less clutter in my life the happier I am.

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I have boxes for all my kit in the loft, even my 30 year old SF Concerto’s. I have moved house a number of times and always pack everything back in the original packaging. Also useful for sending to Naim for servicing/repair and essential, imo, for resale value. I believe Naim boxes cost circa £50 to replace.

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Is that the incantation from Midsommar? Am I going to have a sudden urge to jump off a cliff in front of Florence Pugh? :joy:

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Yup!:wink:

I do not have any boxes except the Motu dac, SL2 speakers and some vintage Naim kit.

A have a Phonosophie amp, 42,5, HC, SL2, 5x 18" drivers, 4x10" drivers, a large subwoofer and some large horns for my next project. These parts are in the basement and in Zarges boxes in my girlfriends parents farm. And an extra power amp in the basement.

I’ve not moved house in the last 15 years; but before then I travelled with an active system around 4 different countries, moving every three years. Boxes, lots of them were essential. Now they are kept in a shed, but I must retrieve some soon so that some of kit can be serviced.

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I’ve kept all of my Naim equipment, over the years.

I don’t know why!?
But it’s nice to have spares and backups! :squinting_face_with_tongue:

I think there’s a reason we used to call spare rooms a “box room”

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A box room wouldn’t be big enough for all my boxes.:smiley:

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Loft Space Update:
I have created some more space for HiFi boxes in the loft by removing all of my originally purchased set of GIK Acoustics 242 panels (giving FoC to a new studio being set up).

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just pre, music library+streamer, dac, poweramp on a naim fraim and magnepan ribbon dipoles on the floor. boxes in the basement.

Only 3 Naim boxes???!!!:scream:

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Partly because we don’t like to see things go. I know all things have a certain time, but they can always be of use to someone. Some can have workarounds and be given a new life. As for boxes, you can never have too many…:face_with_peeking_eye::face_with_peeking_eye::face_with_peeking_eye::rofl::heart:

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