Hi,
I still do not fully understand what I can do with my innous zenith.
Currently I have the zenith connected as server only.
What happens when I connect it like this:
With this connection I can use the wonderful sense app - correct?
But who is acting as streamer in this setup?
Still nd555/nds or the zenith?
Can I use qobuz like this handled through the zenith?
Thx
Is it worth contacting Innuos or instructions for set up? I mentioned the other day about using as a streamer into NDS or ND555.
I don’t have one but they look like a good piece of kit.
I believe that the Innuous Zenith Mk3 needs to be connected via USB port. NDS doesn’t have one on the back I don’t think. It’s whether it’s compatible with the NDS or needs some form of adaptor.
The Limetree Bridge will work with NDS no problem if you want Qobuz if you can’t get Innuous to work.
Try connecting USB NDS to USB PhoenixNet.
And then connecting ethernet cables on two rear ports of Innuous.
Just connect the Innuos to the desired DAC (nd555 or NDS) via USB and appropriate digital converter, and configure its mode accordingly (probably standalone would do it for you), in that way, you’ll be using the Innuos as the streamer and you can use the Sense app
my nds is connected to the zen mk3 via ethernet, no bridge required.
If I was to add a pn, it would logically locate between the lan and the zen.
During testing I had a glitch with sense upnp integration resulting in noise from speakers.
A setting which has functioned every Time before - using sense app. After restart of innous it worked again. But damn noise - hate such things when they happen.
Not overly loud but still sweating here - at the end I damage my system and there is no more question how to go further.
I stop now!
The Naim streamers don’t have the required type of USB input. I tried a M2TECH Hiface device which plugs into the USB socket on the Zenith and provides a SPDif connection on a BNC socket. A chord shawline digital cable connects from the hiface to the Naim streamer. Then you have the streamer on the zenith connected to the DAC of the Naim box. It is the lowest cost connection you can get. So quality is OK but not brilliant. However sense is the controller in this mode.
Or you can install a software gizmo on the zenith to let Sense be the controller of an Ethernet connected Naim streamer. But this leaves the Naim box acting as streamer and DAC. Innous can explain how to do this, there was a webpage of theirs that explained it. I am not sure if it is still available.
There are more upmarket USC to spdif converters available which could make the first option a better one.
That way it’s the NDS acting as the streamer, and not the Innuos
unsure about that, nds does not do qobuz.
but the Ethernet input is not a “digital“ input I.e. input for its DAC, but as a streamer. At least that’s my recollection of when I owned one.
Reply to a similar question in another forum.
This was my understanding as well:
***Just an update…Here’s the response I received from Innuos:
Ethernet and USB are very different outputs, it’s not just a matter of changing cables. If you want to connect via Ethernet, this means the ZEN works only as a server and sends the file for the Gustard to play. This is done via a protocol called UPnP. You can turn the Zen into a UPnP server by going to Sense App > System > Settings > UPnP. Choose the Native UPnP option. However, this way you won’t be able to use Sense for playback, you will need an app such as BubbleUPnP on Android or mConnect on iPhone/iPad to browse and play your music - or if the Gustard has a app then use the recommended app from Gustard.***
How long ago was this information sent from Innuos? I ask as the UPNP/DLNA bridge software may change their response now
What kind of software - something new with innous software. Have done the update - very sensitive to fw updates in these days
This has been my set up for at least two years. The sense app is fantastic. I detected a slight sq lift immediately. Don’t know if this config will work for the 555, but Innuos can confirm or presumably adjust accordingly. Settings as follows:
I checked yesterday and found it better sounding with naim app. With sense app a bit sharper - currently I tiny sensitive when it is about sharpness 
And - again I had a glitch with sudden static noise appearing when sense app in use. No - not my liking such things. Back to naim app.
@Petersfi
How have you connected the zen? Both lan and streamer?
Hi @drago, I think @Petersfi showed how to do the setup of the UPNP/DLNA bridge before I got back to the forum. One advantage of the bridge is you can stream from tidal or Qobuz to a green stream Naim streamer. That’s why I use it.
Yes - and that is exactly how I have set it up and got static noise.
But I have the zenith only connected to the lan port.
That sounds bad. I can only take you into the murky backwaters of Lyrion Music Server third party plugins to try to sort that out. It’s best to contact Innuos support so nothing gets damaged
Are These Plugins to be installed at zenith?
I had a sweaty moment yesterday after static noise - but all seems fine. Checked all over and over again 
Right now I am back to the naim app.
