If you are very happy with a Kudos (X3), would a Harbeth M30/C7 not be so good?
My question is different: What would be an improvement over an X3 if you like the sound but want a bit more of everything?
My taste in music is mainly classic rock and prog rock.
Very happy X3 owner here and I have no wish to look for something else.
Change for the sake of change usually brings on an upgrade carnival that probably wasn’t required.
If you can’t live with them that’s another matter. 
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The simple answer would be to raise the volume.
More useful perhaps, if you like the Kudos sound, have a listen to a pair of Super 20s. These have just been discontinued by Kudos, so you should be able to pick up a pair at a good price.
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I’m in no hurry at all to buy anything else.
I’m just interested in the opinions here.
A dealer who also has Kudos advised me to listen to something from Proac and ATC.
I had Kudos X2 for quite a few years, the smaller model from which the X3s were developed. They were great, but if I’m honest a significant bottleneck once my (mostly Naim) system had reached 282/250 level.
I changed the X2s to Shahinian Arc 2s which bought a huge improvement in all areas. There are, of course, many other speakers you could consider, and your shortlist should be chosen from speakers which you can actually listen to, preferably at home, rather than whatever someone on a forum tells you are the best speakers ever.
Good luck!
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Oh cool, I had a Shahinian Arc myself for over 20 years. But I have to say that I like the Kudos X3 much better in my 16 square metre music room.
I had Kudos X2’s before looking for an upgrade. It’s important to have an idea of what might or might not work in your room. Go to some dealers and try a few different brands and see how you feel. I was really impressed by ProAc but could only listen to D series which wouldn’t work in my space due to the sideways porting. Sadly dealers weren’t able to provide any K Series for demo or I could well have ended up with them as the ribbon tweeter is seriously impressive. ATC had the most sublime top end but just felt a little lifeless.
So up the Kudos line I went. The S20A didn’t work too welll as the top end was harsh in my room as it has lots of glass. Only the T808 offered anything to make me get rid of the X2, and they have been magnificent, but as @Skeptikal says, with the new speakers I contracted upgradeitis and ended up taking the 808’s active………….but oh boy!
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Possibly demonstrating how speaker/room interaction is by far the most important consideration. The Kudos also demand much less of the amp in my experience, whereas the Shahinians really need at least a 250.2 in a Naim system.
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I checked the specs of the Kudos X3. If bass is important to you, the Harbeth M30/C7 will be a downgrade. The X3 goes down to 25Hz on paper while the M30 and C7 go down to 50Hz and 45Hz respectively.
Hi,
I am aware that my reply is slightly out of context, but here it is: I have heard/owned/demoed a lot of speakers in my room with more or less similar equipment, including a couple of Harbeth, most Naim, rega, Marten Design, Acoustic Research, PMC, Klipsch, Dynaudio… If I were to just listen to classic rock and prog rock I would take the Klipsch Heresy III again hands down.
Best
Max
Yep, always matter of music type 
and for me hard to deal with it because season related ……honestly very hard to find a real « allround » speakers because asking for the opposite signature …so 2 pair of speakers would be « very nice »….next steps would be « two system »….yes…still dreaming 
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That’s the one Klipsch that gets down to business better.
But I listen to a lot of music, and I also need a speaker that is suitable for long-term use.
With a Klipsch, I would probably soon be exasperated.
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