Linn Selekt Journey

From that, it may appear that the October FW update may be the cause of the issues if that is when it was first encountered.

DG…

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So it would seem. Could be that the FW upgrade (October) introduced something that disagrees with my mesh config and the subsequent update (December) retained.
We have tried 2 NDX2’s, both mine and one from my dealer. They both behave perfectly normally at the store, but both misbehave in exactly the same way in my cabin🤷🏻‍♂️

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Mesh networks, work of the :japanese_ogre:!

ATB, J

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I have a Mesh system with four nodes but they are all hardwired back to the first switch fed from the first node.

Must admit that my network is solid and stable with no issues.

DG…

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Yeah, mine is a Core unit and 4 Nodes.
We have absolutely no other issues with it, just the 2 streamers.
Our BroadBand is 4G, as OpenReach still haven’t completed the Fibre Infrastructure work they started 5 years ago.
I can’t see why any of this is a problem though, as I have zero problems with any other device on the Network :man_shrugging:t2:

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All true, however, hardware, location, building materials, chipsets, the list goes on, any and all of which can/may/will affect performance and/or reliability.

It’s just plain tricky :innocent:.

ATB, K

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Worth checking the subnet address of your router and what is listed in the NDX2 online settings. Sometimes with product upgrades/changes they can be reset and get out of sync with eachother. It can be a bugger to resolve, but I have been there/done that…

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Hi @Timbo . Apologies for off track.

I see you have or had a Quintet Bronze. I understand that they have quite a strong bottom end, which I would like a bit more of next time. I would be grateful for any views you have on it.
As I have (mildly) upgraded my LP12 over the years it has become leaner, cleaner, more detailed, tighter/lower bass ( But it seems like less bass). I
would like to add a bit more bottom end/warmth back. I run a Hana SL at the mo. Any thoughts would be appreciated. Cheers.

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Hello - apologies for the tardy reply.

To be honest IMHO the Ortofon Quintet Bronze is not that good, I got it as part of a deal and it’s on my Rega P9. For £625 I think there are better options i.e. a DV 10X5 mk II would blow it away. The tracking force for me is set at 2.2 grams but recommended to have a bit more and I think that’s what gives it such a low end muddy bass. Your Hana is a good option and from what I have heard quite engaging especially those with the Shibata stylus, but as you progress up the range there are better options. Actually I still have an old Ortofon VMS 30E which sounds almost as good as the quintet to my ears, but has a much lower tracking force which might explain it.

Cheers
Tim.

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Thanks for the info, useful to know. Cheers.

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So finally got to hear the Selekt Edition with dual amp modules and dual Organik DAC’s, driving Kudos 505’s in Exact Active mode, a very, very different experience from any previous single amp/DAC combination.

A truly refined performance, still less forward than Naim, but a great sound nevertheless and even more difficult to choose between the two.

It now really comes down to which sound you prefer the most, Linn or Naim, there’s really nothing more to choose between the two.

Oh, I should add, and a bit of price depending on the Naim or Linn system configuration.

ATB, J

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And the number of boxes…good to hear you have now heard the sound with the dual DACs, it really is a great sound.

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Still not sure whether or not I could prefer it to the Naim sound. It really is just down to what the listener prefers, the punchy, forward PRAT of the Naim or the refined detail of the Linn.

And, of course, for all but a select few, how much it costs to change. :innocent:

ATB, J

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Absolutely! It’s all down to personal preference. My Selekt really suits my musical taste, but can well understand people making other choices. I do think the sounds of Naim’s New Classic and Linn’s Organik DAC have moved SQ closer together but there’s still enough difference to offer a real choice.

Roger

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So, having been mulling over the Selekt/twin amp/twin Organik experience for a week now, I think I have come to understand the issue wrt to considering it as an upgrade to the NC 200 system.

The problem with the NC 200 system, if indeed such might be considered a ‘problem’, is that it delivers so much, especially when ‘maxed out’ with an NPX 300 and SL full loom. When the cost to change to the Linn Selekt is taken into consideration, the impact of the change, IMHO, fails any kind of VFM test and would have to be heart over head every time.

To really outweigh the NC 200 system, I’d need to be looking at a maxed out Selekt, dual mono Organik’s and a pair of NC 350’s, which unsurprisingly nukes the budget and then some. A system that has absolutely delighted several here :grinning:.

Change for change’s sake is all very well, but is a sure cause of buyer’s regret in short order, it really needs to deliver a significant bang for the buck to be worthwhile.

An, as always, YMMV.

ATB, J

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I had the same feeling when I auditioned 222/250 vs 333/332/250 last year (Feb 2024 - before the price rises). Although the latter was a big step up it would have been approximately twice the cost. Sadly I just couldn’t justify it.

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Glad to hear that folks are going out and trying different systems to see if they can get a bit closer to that ideal “presentation” that they would like; and reporting back on their findings.

For me the fact that my speakers could be driven actively was important in informing my decision. I found the active presentation that much better, at least in my room and to my ears with my music. The fact that it was a single box also helped as Mrs O thought it looked much better. I’ve played with SO a little but even without it I still opted for the Linn.

As to the future, if and when any money becomes available, I would like to audition a Linn DSM into 2 x NAC250 into my Kudos 606s in an active config. Linn have indicated verbally to me this is doable but I would need to change my 2 x Amp modules in the DSM to 2 x Stereo Line-out modules, and reuse my existing 2 x Organik DACs, thereby keeping active config. It was even inferred that SO may still provide a positive impact. Still that’s an idea for a future demo and I won’t be trying it until funds are available just in case I prefer it to what I have.

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I assume the fully spec’d Linn Selekt is a similar cost to NC200 series so to change would have cost implications for you. Unless you really want a one box solution or much prefer the musical presentation, I’m not that surprised with your decision.
I really like the NC200 series but like you I would consider an alternative although it would need to deliver a substantial improvement in SQ, to me, without huge outlay – I’ve not come across this option yet!

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Glad that you’re enjoying it, but still keeping the options open.

That’s the nice thing about the Selekt, so many ways that you can configure it.

Active into the Kudos Titan 606s is very nice indeed.

DG…

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Can anyone tell me the difference When I am using UPNP on my linn steamer it was playing on source UPNP AV up in the shop where I bought my streamer the same streamer was playing from source playlist? what is the better one to use for sound quality thanks.

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