London covid

Well today we hear that 1 in 20 has covid in London and knowing that a fair few on the forum are from London how are you are you OK and thoughts with you from up north in Lancashire

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One in 15 in some parts of the capital, things are certainly getting grim here.

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Kevster it’s grim alright and I do hope you and your family are OK and safe. And I do hope it’s starts to get under control sooner than later
What are the roads and suburbs like are they quite or are some just not bothering to stay at home

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It’s very very quiet I have to say - certainly where I live and from what I can see, dead in the West End, City, Canary Wharf etc. I can see an even stricter lockdown coming, unfortunately.

In November my wives sister family had to travel up north when her mam died from Covid19.
They could not understand why they needed a separate car for them and their bubble in the cortege and when we arrived at the crematorium they were asking where is everyone as Crematorium only allowed 15 maximum because of its size. They were flabbergasted when they realised there were no pubs / hotels open for a drink afterwards sighting they were all open in Surrey / Hampshire.
It showed a real disconnect especially when certain southern boroughs had greater instances of covid19 than we were experiencing.
I just hope and pray the vaccine works for mankind’s sake.

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A friend of mine works for an NHS trust in North London, went back to work on Monday and was called in to a team meeting. Assuming it was the “welcome back, happy new year” talk she was freaked to hear that the local hospitals had full ICUs and were at maximum capacity, and that they were in crisis alert to support rehab of elderly patients to free up beds.

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And from Yorkshire the same love and hope for all of you in London and the South East. Stay safe and I hope you manage to be happy during this phase while we wait for the vaccine to hopefully make a major difference.
My mum, sister, best friend all live in London, I’m watching there and the rapidly rising rates here with horror. For obvious reasons I didn’t visit Mum over Christmas, there’s a high chance I’ll never see her again, but it just felt totally inappropriate to travel to the high risk area and run the risk of bringing more virus back up here.

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I live down in leafy SE24 (down a little bit from Brixton) and normally work in the Victoria area. I find working from home quite troubling and a drag and sneak up to the office once in a while. Today in the Victoria area was very quiet. The trains practically empty. I also spoke to a doctor today about a long COVID condition I have developed after getting the virus last March. I now have to visit Kings College Hospital once a month for a regular blood test. He said to me that if in the London community you assume 1 in 30 has it and is infectious, you can also assume that it might be as many as 1 in 10 of those wandering around a major teaching hospital like Kings. And that’s the apparently healthy people visiting. Eeeek. I have a blood test scheduled for next week. Might pop my running shoes on and be in and out sharpish.

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Thoughts with those in London right now. What’s going on in London is going to hit us all very soon. Mrs. G. is a consultant physician in the Acute Medical Unit (AMU), one of the covid wards of her hospital in the Midlands, and they have been warned that the hospital will break in about two weeks time with no cavalry to call on. This means they will have to decide who gets treated and who doesn’t. Playing God as it were. She is absolutely dreading it.

I get the impression that no part of the country is safe. Keep yourselves and those with you safe at home. This thing hasn’t finished with us yet.

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I thought it was crazy when they locked down other parts of UK a few months ago (E.g Manchester), but not London, though it has the highest population density so even if infections weren’t quite as high it was only a matter of time… My take on it was the influence of the usual South-centric focus when making economic decisions, while seemingly less concerned about the impact of lockdown elsewhere. (This NOT making a judgement as to whether lockdowns anywhere were justified, merely highlighting the difference.)

I feel sorry for those in London and around at present, now suffering saturation of the health service. Roll on vaccinations as fast as possible, and here’s hoping the current lockdown does the trick -there and everywhere else.

How many UK people received the vaccine yet?
Here only 26k since 1 week.

About 1.5 million to date

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With that rythme, in a few months the majority will be vaccinated and you will be , maybe, sorted for the most part. Normally…
I hope France will really accelerate. We are one of the slowest in the world.

To give the second dose as well it needs about 80 times that to vaccinate most of the population - and they’ve been doing it for 4 weeks now…

However, not all the population will get vaccinated, while once the most vulnerable have been the risks start to reduce, and once a good proportion have been then transmission will reduce. And they are still increasing vaccination rate, the new products not requiring special storage making quite a difference to logistics.

I guess that by late Spring to early Summer the difference will be quite noticeable, and maybe by Autumn it will be under control - though there is still the unknown factor of how long immunity will last.

Has anyone mentioned a curfew for London ? and other nearby areas. Maybe not 24 hour but 6 to 6, and only really essential basic supply shops, permission permits to leave home for essential shopping.???
I just fear it’s heading that way & if lessons need to be learned, maybe just maybe, sooner rather than later (for once in this pandemic) might be a way to stop the waterfall.

It does seem strange that you can pop into a DIY superstore at the hight of the pandemic

I’m sure the vast majority of us on here are the wrong side of sixty…and are really worried about catching this and it killing us or dramatically altering the way we spend our last few years…
A close relatives is in x-rays …and if covid strikes bad…your chest is permanently damaged

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The idea of a DIY store being available is presumably so that people unable to work but confined to home can do something constructive, helping keep them occupied and not going ‘stir crazy’.

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I thought there was a lockdown meaning people can only go out for essential shopping, work if they cannot work from home, and (?) limited exercise. What difference would a curfew make? Indeed, arguably it may be better in a densely populated place for people to be able to do essential shopping over a wide possible time span to minimise contact with others.

Curfew makes a lot of difference,
Lockdown is ‘Please stay at home’, curfew is ‘You WILL stay at home’

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I though lockdown was law in UK, requiring one of the prescribed legitimate reasons if someone goes out: is it not? If not, under what powers were people fined who reportedly weretaking exercise 5 miles from home, scarcely a long distance away?