N-Sats replacements

Hi

Could anybody give suggestions on replacements for Naim N-Sats.
Mine have suffered accidental damage and I have now been told they cant be repaired as there are no spares available.
The replacements will be partnered with the 3.5 cdp and flatcap and connected with Naca 5 speaker cable. Speakers will be placed along the longer wall and can be placed anywhere up to 12ft apart and brought into the room by about 1ft.
My nearest dealer is about 100 miles away which makes auditioning quite difficult.

Thanks

Eddie

What amp?

I like my Dynaudio bookshelf speakers. Mine are about 5 years old and the lineup has changed; there are quite a few in their lineup today.

Sorry.

Nait3

ProAc Tab 10

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Where abouts are you? I recently traded some mint cherry n-sats and n-stands to sound org in York. They are fairly rare items and not fully appreciated by most. I would have kept them if I had the room as I loved them.

Dave

I have Cherry N-sats. We must be brothers. Although living here in sunny Perth, (40C today), maybe not. Plus I think they sold a heap of Cherry N-sats.
But if we’re not brothers then thats fine.

On to the question at hand, if I had to replace mine maybe some Tablett 10s. Or some…LS3/5a’s, if sound levels weren’t to loud. Although the price here for new LS3/5a’s is a bit extreme.

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I would see if you can home demo some ATC SCM7s to see how they work with the Nait. ATC is one of the few manufacturers that can match the speed and timing of Naim speakers.

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+1 for ATC SCM7s.

Thanks all for the suggestions. Both look very interesting alternatives. Will now have a look at the nearest dealer and take it from there.

Cheers

I would be careful attempting to pair ATC 7s with a Nait 3. The OP might find it woefully underpowered. I used to have 7s. They are fabulous speakers of course. I found a 140 was the lower bound amp for them. A Nait 2 was hopeless. A 250 was just right. I currently run 32.5/hc/250 on HTS 7s and find it a balanced match. The 7s might be small but to my ears they ask for real power.

There aren’t many of us! I think the name of them didn’t help with their popularity, N-Sat imply they are surround rear channel speaker or something? The sounded amazing with my Nait 5 based system and just got better all the way up to the peak of my system (82/PSC/HiCap/200/CDX2).

Dave

I have a dubious Harmon Kardon receiver driving them in my office, and they work ok. But if I run them with my 172/200, (from my main system), they rock.
Hopefully next year I will be able to upgrade the main system and slot the old Naims into the office permanently.
I used to have Kan 1’s, (both passive and active), and the N-sats are so much more liveable.

I never had a chance to hear any Naim speakers. How do the N-Sats sound compared to today’s competition in the “small speaker market”, such as ProAc’s Tablette or Neat’s SX3?

Cheers!

I haven’t heard the Neats but the ProAc Tablette 10 is pretty good. Like all good small infinite baffle two ways bass is fast but not extended.
The N-sats are simular.
I have had extended periods with sbls and nbls in my lounge, (way way back in the day), and now have been listening to S400s for the last 5 years. These speakers are all pretty fast. My drug of choice. I could say that it’s been a life long weaknesses. Other speakers I have owned are Linn Kans, SARAs, Isobariks, Meridian M2s, which have all been that way too. Tonal accuracy is important but tight bass with great attack is paramount.
The N-sats are a bit soft in the top end, which for a secondry system is not such a bad thing.

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Just as an aside, earlier Tablettes were ported. Of the earlier models l have only heard the 8s. This might sound crazy but to me they were a bit “wooly”. Yes I know. Still nice but just a bit too “comfortable”.
I also think the LS3/5a is bit bloated too, but in a different way. And yes a 100mm bass driver too.
To my way of thinking, a cabinet has to be really well made to avoid bass waffle and drone. Ergo, lots of thickness AND money to make 'em rigid.
The BBC idea from the 60/70’s was for thin ply walls, with bitumous damping. I had Spendor BC1s, (my first decent speaker), and whilst they had some fine attributes, such as great vocal timbre and astonishing imaging,(for the time), bass was very wooly. As were the Spendor SA1s and BC3s. But I kept persevering with the BC1s. Modified the cabinets. Bought a Naim 22/120 amp. Made better spiked stands.
The first time I heard Isobariks, (playing the Witches Chorus from Macbeth), I was hooked! Bass! Fast! Exciting! Okay I did have stars in my eyes, (My boss was giving me the demo, I had just started working in a Linn/Naim dealership), and the concept of “foot tapping” was new.
We call it PRaT now, and to me Naim speakers have generally been on the mark. But they aren’t the only guys into this. Kudos, ATC, Vivid seem to be in this camp too. And there are more I’m sure.

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Another vote for LS3/5As. They are not for rock music but are fantastic for classical music. You don’t have to buy new…

Best
David

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The Harbeth P3ESR would be an equally good alternative to Falcons and Stirling LS3/5A, I have a pair, lovely delicate sound - but the entire LS3/5A debate has always been a bit of a Marmite issue. Some love, some loathe

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Thanks @steve95775!

Eddie, I have heard Spendor SA1s and liked them. Have not heard them with gear like yours.

But I think they could be described as being ‘n-Sat like’ on the basis of what the salesman said about the SA1s being ‘veneered inside and out’, implying that their stiff cabinets contributed to their speed.

Chris
(LS3/5a owner of twenty years, n-Sat owner for five).

Thanks again all for for a few more alternatives to the N-Sats. Will definitely start looking after the New Year.

Cheers