Nait 50 with Falcon Acoustic LS3/5a speakers

[Wilfried]

Thanks for the feedback. However, when I look online, it seems that some people use corresponding accessories between SS6 and, in particular, LS 3/5 speakers. As you mention, the specially thin-walled housing construction may play an important role here. The ‘Canuck Audio Mart’ forum also has reviews and comparisons of various options. Silent Angel Stand S28 (which are actually intended for small devices such as switches) seem to have proven themselves here.
In any case, it’s an exciting option that I hadn’t considered before.

[Kompressor1]

I much prefer my Chartwell Graham Audio LS6 over my gold badge LS3/5a with Nait 50 or nap250dr. Better in everyway, imaging, dynamics and sense of realism.

[frenchrooster]

Are the LS3/5a kompressed?

[daddycool]

@Simon-in-Suffolk

What I am surprised about is how much I am enjoying my EDM/IDM tracks through these speakers… it really feels like I am producing as I can hear so much mid to low end info it opens up a whole world of musical layers on some of these tracks. further after a bit of careful positioning, the beats become super tight and transient in a way I have not heard much in my listening room. I do think the slightly compressed presentation really flatters so many recordings and aids a beguiling in room response.. for near and mid field listening in my relatively modest listening room.

Hopefully no too much off topic, but you have just described how I experience my Royds.

I have now heard the Russel-K 50 and for me that was not the right direction, like the Nait 50.

I have been theorising for a while that with the XS3 and a Flatcap XS the Q7 could then be the right step up. This tread helped me to make sure I actually hear them at some point (no rush though, and happy to read further). I wish you happy hunting for your perfect solution!

[Simon-in-Suffolk]

Thanks..I doubt I will ever find a perfect solution… I like to choose optimum solutions for the different phases I go through.. I think however I have confirmed infinite baffles work best for my tastes.

[Simon-in-Suffolk]

So.. complications.. the little decouples/absorbers I put between the LS3/5aand the SS60 speaker platforms worked really well.. but in my room perhaps just lot a bit of the bass support I was enjoying from the LS3/5a at the expense of super tightness and quality…. So I put my RK RED50s back on… now here things tightened up as well, in fact significantly.. and bringing forward into the room a little evened the balance out. Now sure the RK RED50s does have a slightly filtered upper mid in comparison, and doesn’t have the super detail of the LS3/5a but does work rather well on many recordings…

Hmmm what do to.. perhaps the Falcon Q7 with might a way forward… though being a kit speaker can’t really try it home …

[Blackbird]

In what way is Falcons an “infinite baffles” design?

[Simon-in-Suffolk]

Infinite baffles effectively means non ported. That is the rear wave of the speaker doesn’t meaningfully interact with the front wave, because the sealed cabinet effectively absorbs the rear wave from the speaker driver(s)

[Wilfried]

Russel K also offers the Red50se version. I listened to it at a dealer in direct comparison with the standard version. It’s a big step forward, and I could imagine that it closes the gap to the Falcons you mention. However, they are not cheap (4k upwards). And they have a plexiglass base, and I’m not sure if it works with the SS-6. The SE version is not officially listed on the Russel K website, even though it was presented back in 2024. And the website of the only Russel K dealer in Switzerland states that some models are currently unavailable. This is rather confusing, but I don’t know any further details.

[Simon-in-Suffolk]

Thanks - yes, that is probably a little out of my budget at this time.. yes I noted 50 SEs are not on the RK web site.

[Argyle_Mikey]

Are these fat dot benefits more pronounced with “lossy cabinet” speakers perhaps ?

[Simon-in-Suffolk]

possibly - I am now using the Audio Serenity ISO-9H isolators and they seem to work rather well for me and my setup.. I don’t think there is any magic - it’s basically a specific elastomer that has been selected for this type of job - and works well… its quite interesting to what extent they improve the performance from the speakers - its imaging and and bass tightness that seem to improve, even on ported speakers. I like them, and they are not much money.

[Argyle_Mikey]

Thanks for the tip Simon, I have bought some. As you say, they are not expensive compared to Herbies which worked out at £89 for 8 including postage.

[Hifi-dog]

and me for £13 cant go wrong!

[Blackbird]

I currently use Dynavox dampers. Good quality. Had the Audio Serenity in the past but they stiffened and I suppose changed their characteristics.

[Igel]

I have always found that Spikes work better than any soft material.

[twofifty]

I noticed in an advert that Solid Steel include a packet of UHU Patafix with their stands. I don’t have Solid Steel stands but I do have Patafix on top of Atacama stands and it works a treat with my Kans.

[Simon-in-Suffolk]

They do include Patafix, but previous experience with Patafix was not great with speakers so I didn’t bother with them

[Simon-in-Suffolk]

I think if I was using a non lossy cabinet, spikes would be the way to go. Concious with lossy cabinets the cabinet vibrates at different amplitudes across the cross area of the panel.. so not sure spikes would work well. Only my sofa theories on this however… I was not a mechanical engineer.

[Igel]

This is how Linn explains it and they also use spikes towards the speakers on their stands. “Linn speakers utilize spikes on their bases to minimize vibrations by creating a small contact point with the floor, allowing the speaker cabinet to resonate less and produce a cleaner, more accurate sound; essentially isolating the speaker from external vibrations and maximizing sound quality by keeping it stable and free from movement. "