ND5 XS2 and Naim nDAC

I do wonder about architecture of systems. My primary system -cd3.5 and nd5 xs2 - means two dacs or three if I use an external dac for the xs2. Surely one is the answer!

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I subscribe to that same idea.
It would be great if Naim had a decent USB DAC in the current range. It provides for a useful ā€œbuilding blockā€ in any system development.

I cannot recall the thread now, but basically I think Naimā€™s view is that once youā€™ve engineered a DAC, adding the streaming board is not much more expense. So they effectively see the ND5 XS2, NDX2 and ND555 as DACs with streaming chucked in for ā€œfreeā€. I really wish I could find the source for that sentiment, and how long ago it was mentioned, but I think that makes any separate DAC, or streamer, unlikely :confused:

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The Ndac was Ā£2,500.00 when discontinues. (or thereabouts).

The ND555 costs about Ā£13,000.00. So thatā€™s over Ā£10,000.00 for the streaming part.

thereā€™s a lot more to a dac than a dac chip

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Aye, Iā€™d love to find the reference, will have another look over a cuppa this afternoon!

Though the ND555 has more to it than just being an NDAC on a sprung chassis I think :slight_smile:

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No, much more to the ND555. You have all that mass loaded sprung suspension system with the boards mounted in brass bases. Thatā€™s just for startersā€¦

If anything I would say the opposite. The streamer is not just the streaming board itself, but also the various wired and wireless inputs, controller, buffers , and the Sharc DSP. All of these remain in use even if the streamer digital output is used.
Naim had little choice but to discontinue the NDAC as it uses a discontinued DAC chip which they still use in the ND555, and they bought all remaining stocks in order to maintain production of the latter product. It will be interesting to see what they do in future, and whether they have the resources to successfully implement an alternative DAC architecture which would be a major departure from their current tried and tested designs.

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The hardware is one thing but I bet that the software costs more than building the streamers.

I tried to edit my post and itā€™s deleted itself!! , oh well! anyway , I was trying to point out that the firmware/software updates have had a positive affect on sound quality and I was a bit gutted that naim never did another firmware update for the ndac .

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I couldnā€™t find the post I recall in the end :ā€™( The closest I did find was one from @Simon-in-Suffolk (sorry to mention you specifically!) but there are quite a few threads about separate Naim DACs and streamers, plus reasons why Naim arenā€™t likely to make either in the near future.

I donā€™t give up though, will try a few more times this week to see if I can find it :smiley:

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You are absolutely correct - I found the thread I was thinking of, and it was specifically a post from Simon in Suffolk!

Once youā€™ve engineered the transport, adding analogue out isnā€™t much more expensive.

Phew. That took me hours X)

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ā€œThe Naim ND5 XS2 - buy yourself the ND555 streamer for Ā£2.4k - add your own DAC! Or use the bundled one free!ā€ :wink:

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Have just connected a preloved ND5 XS2 via DC1 to my nDac/555PS/Vertere interconnect into 552/500. Will report back in a few days :wink:

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I bet this will be very enjoyable!

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