Today is a rest day.
I´m spending a lot of time listening to music.
The system never sounded so good!
The FW update and the transparency of the new speakers, both together make the music so enjoyable
Today is a rest day.
I´m spending a lot of time listening to music.
The system never sounded so good!
The FW update and the transparency of the new speakers, both together make the music so enjoyable
Agree … the latest firmware brings music in a better place, all areas sound better …Better stage,deeper bass cleaner high level and better balance
Something strange on my setup … sense of depth appears diminished…sonically the tones and pace is great…and the sense of width is good…but depth…not the same…anyone else find this…
Not me, quite the opposite.
The firmware update had the exact opposite effect on my system : an increased perception of depth .
Hi Richieroo,
I put off installing update because of @Merlin post and I was burning in Designacable cables.
Cables settled in, big smiles and long listening sessions.
Couple of days ago, temptation was too great.
Update installed, not sure I would have done if heard first..
Gut reaction,probably not.
Hoping @Merlin is going to reply regarding whether his concerns have been resolved.
I have tried all the immediate suggestions made here.
Is it all bad news for me, not at all, bass tightened up, more detail.
I will swap over the Designacable, just incase I was wrong and it hadn’t settled in.But thought your post deserved reply.
Rustyneedle, I’d leave everything as is for a day and let the ND555 settle down before coming to any conclusions or muddying the waters by changing other things… Plenty of time for that later.
Well it has been two days, but I totally agree not a time for panic.
My decision to install based on future updates,resounding approval here and we always want more.
Whatever that might be!
Also felt I should stick my head above the parapet.
Hopefully it’s just the window has been opened a bit more revealing what needs to be done.
Whatever that might be!
Happy Days
I have been testing further…and definitely stereo width seems improved … depth slightly curtailed, bass tightened and there appears more ‘sparkle’ at the top end … overall better…I am definitely not imagining it … I have had to trawl through a number of my familiar reference recordings…to come to this conclusion.
Talking to a guy in the know about all this software bed in and he said utter rubbish?
The machine its self then yes to a certain degree but software he said its either this way or that way and if anything its just people thinking its changed.
Well i dont know but i do sort off agree as if i upload new software to my laptop it doesn’t need a few days to start working does it and this software is just different filters applied to change its mapping i should think.
But as said certainly no expert on it all, but I have heard a few guys in the naim hifi world say the same, so come on why would it need a few days to get going?
I’m not sure anyone is claiming the software needs time to bed in, but there has been speculation about the circuits and clocks etc. settling down after the reboot.
I rather suspect it to be the case that it’s one’s aural receptors which need the time to bed in.
Well thats also a bit off a strange one i feel, as my rossini has many different filters and mapping plus dithering what ever that is, but its all instant the moment you press the button, it doesn’t need a few days to sort its self out. My guess is the nd555 doesn’t either and all this is the normal naim snake oil type of thing you only get with naim lol.
No parts have changed inside its just the same chips going about what it did, but slightly different way, a bit less filter on the treble etc.
So can anyone please give a scientific explanation of why they think it needs a few days to settle in?
As i normally find that if you carnt tell the difference right from the start then normally thats because there isn’t one and if you need time to hear it, then once again its bull.
Every day our own hearing changes and the only time you can really trust your own hearing is with direct switching over at the same time
Anecdotal is the best you’re going to get, up to you if you choose to consider the anecdotes delusional. There are more harmful delusions in this world and most of them not nearly so enjoyable.
Yep, long session last night, nearly convinced myself, wider window, masses more detail, very articulate bass, more transparent, few wow moments. Reduced volume slightly, probably too much ‘sparkle’ for me.
Aural receptors finally retuning.
Partner brought me a cuppa, said ‘sounds more like hifi than music’.
Back to square one, I was almost there too!
Shame there is so much to like, but yep something is missing.
I’m repeating what others have suggested. Personally, I haven’t the vaguest idea. But on my ND555 things were a little harsh and erratic initially but more stable after a few hours. For the rest of it, for me it was probably simply noticing greater detail or extension nor whatever in certain recordings with which I am familiar as the days wore on.
I would suggest, however, that if you really do want to get people to reply with their thoughts on this, then you avoiding putting them down in advance with allegations of snake oil or bull, lol. It’s not going to encourage anyone to either reply or treat you with respect.
Just asking as would like to know why thats all, as it’s seems to only effect naim users, why that is i dont know?
Whats wrong with saying snake oil or bull ? Just give me a reason why it is like this. Off course if no reason can be given whats to say its not bull? I for one like to know certain things and just curious thats all as i can’t get my head round any off it.
I can see why you might feel you here a difference after a few days, but waiting for the software to bed in, thats what i don’t get. As to me its either this one or that one, its not like its learning your system and it takes 2 days to do this program and then off we go.
Thats all really, just curious
Frankly, I’m not convinced by the software argument at all, but I feel things certainly improved for the first couple of hours or so, in a way not dissimilar to what happens when switching the system back on from cold. As to the why I have absolutely no idea.
Cheers for the reply anyway and i guess its best to just get back to enjoying the music and forget about what goes on inside the box.
Not to mention what goes on outside the box and inside our ears and brains! How long do we think that our brains might take to run in and adapt to a software upgrade? Seconds, hours, days? Longer?