Oh boy, the upscaler cost another £3400 mate !
NDS is considered a better category, in terms of the quality of its DAC compared to the 5XS2.
If you intend to stream media on your home network, based on your CD library, then you will definitely get better value for your money from NDS.
However, as you wrote you want to focus on streaming media from TIDAL / QOBUZ, hence the new generation of NAIM media streamers will be better suited for this purpose.
You can also apply for a quality and reasonable solution in terms of financial expenditure on the subject:
Purchasing the 5 XS2 and finding second hand NDAC in good condition plus second hand XPS2 p.s after service.
Together with the DC1 cable, this combination will satisfy you.
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If that is not a typo £1800 for an NDS is an absolute bargain. Don’t forget though that you will need an external power supply for it. As a minimum an XP5XS, but more realistically an XPS-2, XPSDR or 555 (with or without DR) which will bump the price up considerably, but then you are buying a streamer in a different league.
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I’ll stick to my CDs. Streaming comparatively a cheaper exercise & one could surf for a wider range of music at a cheaper cost 24/7.
Still prefer something simple & one piece !
Thanks for the adv
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No joking at all
That’s why ! & the good thing is I have a XPS 2003 to power my CDX2 that could pair with NDS as well
Awful chouce
I don’t think an olive XPS will power an NDS unfortunately. One of the supply rails doesn’t have enough current capacity. There is a minimum serial number In the XPS line that you will need but I think it coincided with the introduction of the XPS 2
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Oh that’s the headache
Forgot this point !
Mine 192xxx
You’re in luck. I just checked the NDS use manual, it says
Important: XPS power supplies with serial numbers below 188015 are not compatible with the NDS and should not be used. Contact your local retailer or distributor for more information.
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There’s a school of thought that argues that the main factor driving the quality of stream music is the DAC and that the network transport/bridge element is less of a critical factor. If you want to use the NDS and still make use of services such as Roon perhaps you could make use of a pure network bridge device which is supported by Roon such as a hifiberry to feed into the NDS (looks to have digital inputs) ??
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I agree with most of what is said here. Whatever is most important to you is ultimately what matters, but I can tell you a quality outboard DAC with the ND5 XS2 brings it to the level being compared/discussed here, but it seems functionality is another important factor to you. If, however, streaming from services as has been said is the top goal here, then it becomes simple, IME. I have a Chord Qutest (with a LPS) and ND5 XS2 combo, and it is simply stunning what it achieves (even without the MScaler, which…oh, someday…).
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Yep, I‘m thinking of that direction as well.
Although I am a bit old school, still happy to play 24 bit SACD than normal one.
Anyway, Streaming is a differnt animal and technology govern. Will pursue the Nd5xs2 route and Chord Quest will then be my next step !
Cheers everyone
Nice weekend.
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What?
You mean Ndx2 and Nds not far from each other, but the Nds is still better. The Nd5xs2 is not at that level, in any way.
I cannot imagine you’d be disappointed with this pairing within the context of the discussion. I marvel at the sound capability these two achieve. I also am with you on the 24-bit SACD over regular comment; that’s where Qobuz comes in handy should you go that route for services. Lots of Hi-Res options there for you, and more come in every day.
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Yes, the NDX2 and NDS are not that far away from each other which is one of the reasons that Naim discontinued the NDS line. Hence it goes without saying that the NDS would sound better than ND5XS2.
ps. I do agree that when I’ve heard them the NDS sounded superior to the NDX2 but the gap wasn’t massive.
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Agree
But I count on streaming efficiency at this stage and realise ND5XS2 no room for upgrade !
Counting on my impulse purchase mode, guess I will move to NDX2 by then - as long as my job remain secured… finger crossed
Cheers !
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You can’t upgrade the power supply, but you can upgrade the DAC, which is another traditional Naim source upgrade option that has been popular with many streamer owners. No use for your XPS, though, which I guess would be spare if you’re not going to keep your CD player.
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Hence why I chose the ND5XS2 with no PSU upgrade, its an excellent streamer into an MScaler / Qutest with MCRU PSU.
This allows DAC upgrades down the line but why would I when this setup is the best I have heard.
On the used or ex demo market the price of the ND5XS2, MScaler and Qutest isn’t that different to the price of a new NDX2.
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My thoughts, too.
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Thought I would revive this thread, since I have been seriously thinking about the ND5XS2. After 6-8 months of using my RP10, Musical Fidelity Nuvista Vinyl as a source, I realize that, if I am honest, I barely ever use it. I was hoping to relive my youth I think, but it has become more of a chore to listen to Vinyl.
I sent an email to the dealer I got the RP10 from, to see if he would take it back on trade, for either an ND5XS2 plus a pair of Proac Tab 10 signatures, or an NDX2.
My plan is to use the Naim streamer as a transport only, so the ND5XS2 seems to make more sense. He replied to my email to call him tomorrow morning to discuss options, so we shall see soon.
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Awaiting your further update mate
Cheers
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