Not sure how I feel about this, is Paul trying to rewrite history or a genuine attempt to keep them relevant.
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Yeah agree Pete
As they say let sleeping dogs lie
Not comfortable at all
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Itâs just releasing an archive recording. Whatâs the problem?
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Based on George Harrisonâs assessment quoted in The Times this morning, Iâm not holding out much hopeâŚ
No theyâve using AI to generate Johnâs vocals. Think it way more than just an archival recording.
They released a song about 20 years ago, using AI to regenerate John Lennonâs âlostâ voice - was it called âFree As A Birdâ? It was rather lovely, I thought.
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Not so. The âAIâ is used to extract vocals from an existing demo recording.
If AI wasnât such a âthingâ at the moment I doubt it would even be part of the story - I guess the media just want something to write about.
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The Beatles split in 1969, end of, move on.
I can accept remastering to improve the recording quality & the listening experience.
But this AI seems a bit ⌠not sure ⌠creapy, synical money making, whatever I will not be adding it to my genuine Beatles collection.
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Same here Mike
I wonder where the royalties are going - hopefully to charities
As you say a bit weird and creepy
Not so. The voice of John Lennon was extracted from the old tape AND digitally remastered. This brings us to a new world of fake releases (exemple is a song of Drake The Weeknd by a tiktokker end of april of this year).
Whereas I thought it a plodding turgid mess which I have tried to forget as it do obviously sullied the legacy.
Absolutely understand the impulse to polish a turd using AI but canât help feeling that there would have been more interest in taking old Beatles songs of some repute and seeing what AI did with either the demo or when adding a chorus to a verse etc.
If youâre going to conflate âremasterâ and âfakeâ⌠
As I understand it, itâs not AI making up a pseudo vocal that sounds like John Lennon. Itâs a technology that given the parameters, it is able to extract a vocal from a recorded song.
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The idea to use AI to reconstruct the demo came from Peter Jacksonâs eight-hour epic, Get Back. For the documentary, dialogue editor Emile de la Rey used custom-made AI to recognise the Beatlesâ voices and separate them from background noise.
â[Jackson] was able to extricate Johnâs voice from a ropey little bit of cassette,â McCartney said. âWe had Johnâs voice and a piano and he could separate them with AI. They tell the machine: âThatâs the voice. This is a guitar. Lose the guitar.â
End quote.
Thatâs the problem with mentioning AI, now everyone assumes itâs in reference to writing and recording songs for example in the style of x or y.
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How heartless!
How can we?
.sjb
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Sophisticated software would have been a better term than AI. But AI gives a better headline.
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As a big Beatles fan Iâm very intrigued. I loved âReal Loveâ which came out as part of the Anthology project and applaud Paul for giving Beatles fans something new to listen to.
JonathanG
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Doubt that, the Netherlands or Panama most likely.
What a very sad sentiment! The Beatles were giants of popular music, popular culture even! I canât think of anyone to match them, or even a single duff song that they recorded - oh well, maybe with the exception of âYellow Submarineâ and âMaxwellâs Silver Hammerâ!
I hope that your own musical output will stand up to comparison with theirs!
Or do you prefer to stand on the sidelines and throw stones?
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Iâm sure that âFree As A Birdâ was produced using similar techniques. I read that George Martin (or whoever) said to the other three Beatles âJohn has laid down the lead vocal and has been called away, now letâs finish the song for himâ.
I think that the resulting release was magnificent, and Iâd far rather have it as a (virtually) fully finished recording, than lying unused and unheard in a tape vault in EMI (or wherever).
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Did say I was unsure I certainly didnât say I wonât listen to it but my concerns are about AI and rewriting history. I love the Beatles they were my first (musical) love and played at regular intervals at my place. However like all good artists thereâs sketches and unfinished work that should never be seen. Ever been to the top floor of the Van Gogh Museum in Amsterdam if you have youâll understand where Iâm coming.