Nick Mason's Saucerful of Secrets Echoes (Live)

This is one of the Record Store Day releases I managed to pick up today.

It has this rather intriguing sticker on the outside. Surely that can’t mean you drop the stylus next to the label and it plays outwards towards the edge I thought to myself, but yes, that’s exactly what it does!
I’ve never seen that before, anybody know of other records like that?

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Great idea.

Your £5,000 cartridge just falls off the edge of the record at the end of the side?

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How does the anti skate work then?

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No, to begin with I refused to believe that’s what it would do so dropped the stylus on what would normally be the run-in and it just stayed there.

No idea but it works! I’d like to think they may have thought of that when cutting the record.

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It clearly won’t.

Inside out would not result in better quality overall, simply reversing the norm of highest quality first.

As for anti-skating, that is only relevant to the lateral force on the stylus, which I think relates mostly to the moving groove and position, with the difference in force between moving gradually outward vs ineard likely to be very small in relative terms. And in any case the setting, at least on arms I’ve seen, is quite coarse and so only approximate, so I doubt outside in makes any difference of significance.



This Bluray version has a LPCM Stereo 24/48 Hi-Res track, so excellent sound quality in addition to brilliant Hi-Def video of the concert.
I saw this concert in Perth, Australia a couple of years ago and it was brilliant.

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Apparently a version of Ravel’s Bolero was stamped that way, so that the final crescendo was reproduced in all of its glory, rather than squashed in to the centre of the LP. Not sure of the truth of this though.

You would be wrong. From the inside out the force is pushing the wrong way so will wear the right channel and mistrack on the left.

It does exist. It’s on Tacet Records (TACETL207) of the Netherlands and features Carlo Rizzi conducting the Netherlands Philharmonic Orchestra. I have a copy and it sounds excellent - it definitely makes a difference having the crescendo on the outer grooves . It’s fairly easy to find in the usual places.

Incidentally these kind of records aren’t that uncommon – I’ve got a copy of Jack White’s Lazaretto that plays from the inside out. As far as I can tell neither of these records has done any damage to me turntable, arm or cart.

And no, the stylus does not fall off at the end, it just keeps going round and round - as it does on any normal record. No idea how a fully automated TT would cope with this sort of record though.

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I have two of these records (hoping to add the NMSOS ‘Echoes’ to make it three) and this has never happened with my £1,200 stylus.

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Autochanger anyone?

My post was an attempt at humour.

Either that or your stylus is too cheap…

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