No Substitute For Live Performance

I don’t care what system you may have there is absolutely nothing to touch a live performance

We go to as many as we can…. Mostly tribute bands including The Doors, Bowie & Queen etc and always so impressed by them

There is no system that can replicate the live experience :grin:

Do we think our system sounds good, absolutely we do, but nothing compared to live performances

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Where are you?

Hampshire I see.

You lucky one, very good offer in UK.

We also agree and try to go live whenever possible.

And the wallet allows.

Chalk and cheese innit.

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I agree too.

Also I am listening to Diana Krall now, she is performing tomorrow at Columbia County Performing Arts Center in Evans (USA) and I can not afford.

But can afford my system.

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I have been to many live performances and thought I preferred my system!

Eric Clapton is one where I was glad I got the tickets for free!

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I can remember when she appeared at my local jazz club of the time at $5 cover charge !

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Depends on the live performance. I loved Texas back in the late 80s and early 90s. Great first couple of albums. Absolutely abysmal band to see live. No energy, no connection with the audience. Just Sharleen Spiteri in a permanent huff because the audience weren’t jumping, without realising that she was the reason they weren’t doing so. To say that live beats recorded music every time just ain’t true.

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In terms of experience I agree. Sound quality is a different matter! Of course you have to play at the same loudness level to compare, but I have been to all too many non-classical gigs where sound has been far from ideal (classical and opera less so). However, depending on where someone lives, choice of live music can be very limited or a lot of travel and associated accommodation etc can be required, while for anyone into seeing mainstream pop or “superstars” the cost of tickets can be extortionate, and pointless given the size of associated venues (I have always thought the bigger the venue the cheaper the tickets should be, yet it seems the converse applies).

when I lived in variously in West London and in Berkshire, there was so much on my doorstep. Now if I want anything other than local bands and orchestra it is at least several hours’travel and an overnight stay, and if a particularly desirable event I’d be wise to book to travel at least a day earlier in case of weather causing ferry or flight cancellation.

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In October we went to “The Amazing Adventures of Kavalier and Clay” at the Met. We had great seats. The opera was broadcast on January 3rd, 2026 and we listened through our NC system Live won by a huge margin

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Have never thought my system should aspire to replicate or substitute for live performance. Also think it’s a mistake to generalise about either.

Live performance on a good night can be transcendent.

On most nights it’s average sound, weird equipment failures, the odd mistake, being blinded by lights which are unnecessary and nowhere as impressive as they used to be, sticky floors, sticky walls, sticky seats, t**’ts who think the sole purpose of a gig is to go to the bar and think endless apologies for asking you to repeatedly let them past are enough, people who tread on your feet, people who dance like there’s no-one there even after they’ve elbowed you in the mouth, people who sing like there’s no-one there and you’ve paid to hear them and the artist, people who think the song is the bit where you have a conversation and so on.

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The real David Bowie on my home system or a live tribute act? Er…no contest

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I increasingly prefer my Naim system at home. Live concerts often offer a great atmosphere (e.g. a blues festival in my town a few weeks ago). However, I find it increasingly difficult to cope with volumes above 80-85 dB and therefore always wear ear protection, which does limit the sound experience. Other disadvantages have already been pointed out, such as standing for hours, cramped seating, etc. And in addition to the volume, the sound quality at concerts is often limited – they are often not acoustically optimised concert halls. A good studio recording on my Naim system is definitely on a par with that.

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@mikehughescq nails it for me.

Too often live performances are about bad sound, bad venues, and bad value. I have had several poor experiences with bands that couldn’t care, or where the lead singer is drunk. Add in travel, late finishes (I am definitely a lark not an owl) and waking with tinnitus…

I have had some good experiences but they have generally been small and local. I have also never ‘got’ live albums. Very few in my collection (I can only think of two) and they are almost never played!

Recorded music is always my preferred experience. Billy Bragg is my honourable exception to the rule. Always fun live.

Bruce

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Spot on. In the last year I’ve seen Nick Cave, Radiohead, Vikingur Olafsson and Pavel Kolesnikov which have all been some of the highlights of my listening life. I’ve also seen a load of poor concerts for the reasons you have described so well.
Many, if not most, albums are not recorded live but are laid down using multiple tracks so will never sound the same live and are often worse.
Which is better - hifi at home or live music? Pointless question as there is a place for both

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I am fortunate that I was quite close to Joan Baez in her last ever UK performance.

I could see the tear in her eye as she turned to walk off stage

You don’t get that from a recording .

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As audiophiles I’ll bet several here have had tears in their eyes after hearing certain recordings :scream: .

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I believe it is a different beast.

The visual content of a live concert is a very important part of the experience. the sound quality can become quite incidental for most types of music. For Rock and Pop, the visual performance of the musicians may count for more than the sound quality, that is often very poor in large venues. Jazz lies somewhere in-between.

Obviously, with totally acoustic Classical music, the sound quality is very important.
With Classical the audience do not see the best visual part, which is the conductor conducting.

Missing the visual part, we are obviously only interested in the sound of the music. So we concentrate on trying to hear the building blocks that make up a piece. We also want something that sounds nice.

HiFi colours the sound to make it more palatable and suitable for the listener. This is why studio headphones are very different to those made for home listening. Vinyl is more “coloured” than a digital file of the same music. We chase after a tuning we like when we buy HiFi gear.

The pictures are mine BTW.

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Live performances bring a “joie de vivre “ with the added visual component. Especially smaller venues. For most performances that we have been to, the quality of recorded music exceeds the live sound.

A huge distraction at many events is when most of the audience seems to think it acceptable to whip out their mobile phones and hold them aloft for large parts of the performance. Do they ever watch all that video after the show??

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I’ve mixed feelings on this one.

On the one hand it can block some or all of your view. It can also temporarily blind the likes of me.

On the other hand I’ve taken the opportunity to film individual songs by one of the bands my offspring is in during their first year else they’ll be lost to memory before you can blink.

Many people film to share on social media. Some do it for the joy of sharing and some do it for the clicks.

I have also filmed because my vision is such that great moments which others can see - interactions between band members or band and audience - are not available to me. I can use low vision aids to see some of that stuff - a hand held monocular or 4 lense TV glasses - but these are not robust items and not always likely to survive a gig. A mobile phone video for me is simply a way to retrospectively see what others see.

There is a constantly trotted out line about people doing such things not being “in the moment”. Tbh I think that’s trite aphorism. I am very much in the moment when pointing a phone. I can hear the music, I’m in the crowd and my visual focus is very much on the stage albeit, in part, through a camera lens.

The person who is not in the moment at a gig is the one texting throughout or conducting a phone call mid song.

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Perhaps if you hadn’t been quite close to her, you wouldn’t have made her cry?

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