A photo perhaps… . ? It’s an option currently under consideration.
ATB, J
I’d like to post a photo but never done that. What I can say is I used A GoldNote DS10 to drive the ATC SCM20 Actives and it didn’t have the necessary 7volt output parameter so it had to operate at 75+ volume and never worked very well. Into a Sugden IA4 it is utterly brilliant. I was an early adopter of the DS10 and the software drove me mad but is now fine. Anyway the 222 runs the ATC actives superbly as being closed boxes they need a good 4-5 volts to perform otherwise they are a bit anemic sounding. By the way the GoldNote CD10 on balanced output is absolutely brilliant.
Just for future reference, if you ever wish to post a photo, take the photo with your phone/tablet. Then, when posting or replying, tap the little picture icon, rectangle with little mountains and sun above the text you’re typing, and it’ll bring up your photos where you can select the photo(s) you wish to include in your post and then carry on typing or reply/send the post.
Good luck if you have a go,
ATB, J
I’ve 2 and soooooo happy with the 2 boxes
Last year did an extensive listening session with a naim dealer. Start point was the 222/250. And i a was dissapointed. That dissapointment dissapeared after adding the NPX 300. So for my ears a 222/250 without NPX 300 was already a no go. The 222/350/350 was also a huge improvement but maybe that was more due to the speakers that need more then just an 250.
But YOUR ears can be the only ones to decide..and then your willingness to spend the extra for the improvement.
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Not sure this is especially relevant to this thread but I will put it here anyway - bought an NPX300 from Signals last week to go with my 333/332/350 PMC 25.26 system. Well, having tried it on both the streamer and the preamp, I much prefer it on the latter. It could be a synergy thing with the 350s and maybe different with a 250 - regardless the music now has a beautiful ebb and flow. Even in the days of OC, I believed in preamp first, source second and that is certainly the way I hear it with the NC kit in the context of the 300 series.
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I had only one 300 with 332 & 333 initially and 332 won the day by some margin.
G
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The NPX300 went in about 45 minutes ago attached to my 332 and the difference is not minor. Like a curtain has been lifted with exceptional micro detail and sound staging. Bass is very tight now and the system will only get better as it runs in. It is the analogue connection with the music that has brought a rather large grin to my face. That and being on Jersey means it is VAT free!
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Good isn’t it.
Enjoy.
G
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I think good is an understatement.
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Can you “install” an NPX300 standing on its side. Has anyone tried this as I am running out of flat space to put a second one on.
I think this question is best directed to Naim, but my view would be no.
You will need to ensure that the heatsinks have enough airspace around them to perform properly, which might be an issue given that one heatsink will be sitting on the floor. Probably not good if you have a carpet, but if not you might be OK.
i have a 222-250, bought around april last year.
it shows the NC sound signature, cleaner, less grain in the sound etc.
the last 3 months i started to notice that i simply couldn’t connect musically to the system.
lethargic, anemic, fragile, lack of dynamics+prat+bass+emotion.
I am demoing a npx300 and now convinced the 222 is meant to be listened with the 300npx, like many others here said. i find that 222-300-250 is much better vfm than 222-250.
npx300 —>>> naim sound
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I’d be very curious to know whether spending the money on a new set of speakers instead of a npx300 would impress you more and provide the engagement that has been missing…
might be worth a demo just in case its better bang for your buck.
my conclusions about the 222+250 are with SL2 and Epos ES7N.
i had a CDS2-555PS-252-300 system, maybe the way i judge the 222-250 is shaped by this.
i also listened too a pair of dynaudio evoke 10.
with all the speakers, my conclusions are the same.
My thoughts have always been the same, the NPX300 is necessary soundwise (unluckily making the whole system way more expensive). I also suggest you to consider better interconnects between the 222 and 250, but you have to try and see what suits you the most. I’m sure the engagement will be back taken all these things into consideration.
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I think you are quite right but the main problem are the anaconda like interconnects. Currently they are stopping me from buying another NPX300 as they add 11 inches to the depth of space needed to accommodate it and the NSC222 which is just maddening.
Are there any thoughts about how I can make the pesky things bend a bit more. Submerge the cables only (not the plugs) in hot water and massage them round a bit more. When they cool they should retain their new shape.
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Within the 200 Series environment, the NPX300 undoubtedly can come across as an extremely overpriced addition, and indeed it is!
The only fly in the ointment is the immediate positive impact it delivers when added to the NSC222 which I experienced when conducting a blind test to decide whether or not it was a worthwhile purchase.
So it boils down to whether or not you can accept/afford the cost, the standalone 222 is very, very good, add the 300 and it’s excellent!
ATB, J
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I would definitely recommend you DON’T do this!
I haven’t had any hands on with the new NPX300 and its Burndy cables but have plenty of experience with the earlier Burndy on other Olive and OC Naim kit and some manipulation is often worthwhile to free them up a bit. This is done by taking the connectors in each hand, making sure they are orientated as they would connect to the sockets, with the cable looped between and then swinging the looped cable back and forth while twisting your wrists with the connectors in hand. Keep doing this until the orientation is “fixed” and there feels no stress.
Otherwise, speak to your dealer or contact Naim directly - as I say I don’t know whether the NPX300 Burndy is different here…
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