The erudite Arbeg10y once said: ‘tinnitus is half of the music’.
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Thanks I appreciate that and it’s a fascinating read. Interesting that you are also such a fan of LS3/5a’s. A completely different kettle of fish to horns in my view but then they also do things that horn speakers (at least our Klipsch Forte III’s) don’t get close to. As with your SN3 our Moon 340ix at 100W/ch into the 99dB efficient Klipsch’s is barely ticking over even at high levels.
it’s a really superb system you have there - I can’t imagine any need to ever change any of it. Do you also use it for video sound incidentally or do you use something else? Our TV is between the speakers but I disconnected it from our Chord Qutest DAC as I found it impacted on the performance of CD playback (our only source). It shouldn’t do theoretically with an optical connection but it did.
If you have it, i don’t envy you. I have it sometimes, but much much less since i have the hearing aids.
Silence is also music. Miles Davis excelled on that.
Yes I think some blur Audiotory Perception and Musicology….
Auditory Perception is the cognitive appreciation of sounds and combination of sounds and rhythmic qualities focussing on auditory stimuli…. Really what many tend to focus on higher end hifi and on this forum , with pace, timing, feel, timbral qualities, tonal accuracy, resolution, stereo, Etc. the terms ‘sounding musical’ or ‘sounding flat’ fit firmly into this category for example.
Musicology which is the appreciation of the structured constructs of sound or music including a number of phenomena including divisions of melody and harmony, form and tonal structure, rhythms, orchestration and performance. One doesn’t need a hifi for this. The latter one can often instinctively feel or appreciate or play or create/compose , or indeed study to be more affective across a wider gamut of the form across cultures … and indeed learn what works and doesn’t in music in aesthetic appeal and fashion.
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Musicology already has a well accepted meaning which is rather different: the study of music, its history, theory and structure. Theis is summed up by Google AI defining Musicology as the scholarly and scientific study of music, focusing on history, theory, and cultural impact rather than performance or composition. (Yellow highlighting came through copying from Google)
Maybe Music Appreciational Analysis (or something similar but a bit snappier) might be a better name for your construct…
And then there is another way people listen to music, which I would call Music Appreciation and Enjoyment: the enjoyment of listening to music, appreciating its beauty and emotion, which can be at several levels, from simply absorbing the overall sound - the combination of melody and rhythm and other sound combined as a moving aural landscape - to listening deeper and hearing the minutiae of detail of different notes and sonds from different instruments (facilitated by better hifi systems), but without necessarily analysing either the structure or the musicianship of individual players though it would not preclude doing that.
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Well we will have to agree to disagree. you might need to help your AI engine with more context specific prompts before you get it to try and summarise 
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Music Appreciation is a division of Musicology. Music Appreciation is about composition, performance and creative contexts specifically within the broader envelope of Musicology
But yes I think we all agree Musicology is not about the mechanics of learning how or indeed the methods of playing s musical a particular instrument…
But chords, progressions, scales very much are…
Elsewhere we use these distinction and these distinctions are made in engineering and science contexts as well such as in the AES.
There have been also studies on sound correlating to emotion (again the AES) - they have been non conclusive - suggesting the association is mostly nurtured and learnt. That falls into Auditory Perception.
The term appreciation of course exists at several levels…
Interestingly, Wikipedia defines Musicology as “the academic, research-based study of music, as opposed to musical composition or performance”, adding: “Musicology research combines and intersects with many fields, including psychology, sociology, acoustics, neurology, natural sciences, formal sciences and computer science.” If I was arguing about it I’d quote dictionary definitions, but I’m not meaning to argue about definitions! Perhaps I could have phrased differently: my point was that you ascribed as musicology as appreciation of xxx, whereas it is the study of xxx (and other things), which perhaps can include appreciation but I suggest not essentially, whereas you can have appreciation without any study of the structure, composition, etc etc.
But unimportant unless trying to formally define different ways of listening to music.
I believe it is important for some; as I said earlier you can follow instinctively or learn why you appreciate it, .. but you don’t need to a great hifi for that. It’s the Auditory Perceptions that get stimulated with great hifi… and of course you can combine the two.
I have found by understanding music you get massively more enjoyment from it rather than letting it passively wash over you in some aesthetic way.
Now I admit the latter works for many - but then some of us are really into the wonders, patterns and cultures of music as well as play music.
When I was taught music as a child and learnt the piano - not enough focus was put into understanding basic music theory - and that held me back for ages for many instruments, choral work and composition.