Radio Paradise FLAC........and ALAC

Thank you @ChrisSU for this info. I am really enjoying the improved SQ. I am listening via Roon. Strangely I am not getting any text with details of what is currently playing.

Yes, the full range of options you get from the RP app are missing. If you use the regular Naim app 320k version, you do at least see what’s playing. There are some settings in the Roon iRadio thing that I haven’t had a proper look at, so I was wondering if this could be improved.

I didn‘t discover any settings but I just keep RP in a browser window so I can see who‘s playing that way :smiley:

If you are using minimserver you can create a web radio entry for radio paradise flac, so you can stream it to every upnp renderer.
https://minimstreamer.com/userguide.html

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Thank you, but I don’t know what LMS is. :smiley:

Logitech Media Server

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ALAC stream from the RP app over Airplay is excellent.

Thanks Chris.

I’m playing the FLAC stream to my Naim streamers through MinimStreamer using the following .m3u file:

#EXTM3U
#EXTINF:-1,[RP;flac] Radio Paradise FLAC
http://icy-8.radioparadise.com/flac

I also have MinimStreamer transcoding FLAC to WAV so the streamer actually receives a WAV stream.

Thanks, Adrian. Is this shown as a Playlist in Minim? I’ll give it a go in Asset tonight.

I tried this last night, creating an m3u file with a few BBC stations and adding R Paradise as above and a JB Radio2 entry that I came across.

Apart from a half second of Radio 2 I get nothing on any of the streams. Am I missing something, either in the way the m3u file works or the environment?

Running MinimServer latest version on Raspberry Pi 3, with MinimStreamer installed. Minimserver has worked happily for the NAS music lib since I set it up last year sometime.

m3u file is plain text as per guidelines, content is:

#EXTM3U
#EXTINF:-1,[R2] BBC Radio 2
http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/hls/uk/sbr_high/ak/bbc_radio_two.m3u8
#EXTINF:-1,[R3] BBC Radio 3
http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/hls/uk/sbr_high/ak/bbc_radio_three.m3u8
#EXTINF:-1,[RP;flac] Radio Paradise FLAC
http://icy-8.radioparadise.com/flac
#EXTINF:-1,[jbradio2;*:L16]jb radio2
http://199.189.87.9:10999/flac

I’ve also added these same streams into the vTuner console both as internet streams (as above) or pointing to my NAS drive per the MinimStream instructions that reference the stream ID in the m3u. Nothing with either format through the 272 box.

Odd that only BBC R2 gave any o/put, albeit v brief, and any variation esp in the stream ID tag seems to knock it out completely. Advice on what to check next would be most welcome.

Gavin, yes, after doing a rescan in Minim it will appear as a Playlist on the main menu.

This is all set up using MinimServer/Streamer but I don’t know whether Asset has the facility to do this. Asset appears to provide internet radio using integration with TuneIn so I’d imagine you would need to be able to add RP FLAC as a TuneIn radio stream using your TuneIn account.

I’m not sure if you are using the same Naim vTuner web page that I have, but on this, you cannot add the RP FLAC URL as you have to choose the format from a dropdown list, and FLAC is not on that list. I took that to mean that vTuner doesn’t support FLAC.

HN, not sure about the BBC entries – are these the most current URLs?

For JB Radio2 I don’t think your syntax is quite right. The “*:L16” part you have in the square brackets as part of the station ID is actually a transcode specification you would enter using MinimWatch. Try the following which works for me:

#EXTINF:-1,[JBRadio2;flac] JB Radio2
http://199.189.87.9:10999/flac

For the BBC stations see the following page:

https://minimradio.com/

It appears MinimStreamer needs more hints as to the stream format than you are providing. There is a sample download for all the HLS BBC stations on that page – you can see that the stations are listed as follows:

#EXTINF:-1,[R4;aac,48000] BBC Radio 4 FM
http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/hls/uk/sbr_high/ak/bbc_radio_fourfm.m3u8

I wondered that, whether it was a valid format selector or just a optional selection to display in the Naim app when playing. Thanks.

Ah. Thanks for this.

The JB Radio2 entry I found on a forum - the poster had tried a few variations but ended his post with a half finished sentence that specifically required *.L16 to be in the tag.

I’ll give that and your BBC suggestions a go in a while, busy for now.

Thanks.

Sorry, the link above contains information for playing BBC stations on an internet radio. There is a specific page for playing streams on Naim streamers:

https://minimstreamer.com/naim/bbcradio.html

That’s where I started, with that file. Nothing except for a brief half second burst of BBC R2.

That appears to be for the BBC HLS streams, which Naim streamers support natively from their iRadio input, so I’m not sure why you would want to use Minimserver?

I tried the BBC Radio DASH sample file and it didn’t work until the stream is transcoded as is documented. So, use the DASH file sample as your starting point and in MinimWatch open the properties dialog. Click the System tab and in the stream.transcode field enter “*:L16” (without the quotes). All working here OK.

You must make sure you have ffmpeg installed to transcode AAC as described here:

https://minimstreamer.com/userguide.html#Stream%20converter%20program

(Note that this isn’t necessary to transcode FLAC, so this isn’t needed for the FP and JBRadio FLAC streams).
Note that the *:L16 transcode specification means “transcode everything to 16-bit signed LPCM” – if you only want to transcode AAC, you can use the format aac:L16.

Or, as Chris says, just use the native support for the BBC streams on the iRadio input! Chris, I thought the same as you but just wanted to show HouseholdNaim it was possible to get this working. I’m only using MinimStreamer for the RP FLAC stream here.