# Show us your ATCs **URL:** \ **Category:** Hi-Fi Corner\ **Created:** [September 12, 2022, 10:42am UTC](https://community.naimaudio.com/t/show-us-your-atcs/25140 "2022-09-12T10:42:10Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 15
**Author:** ![Felix](https://community.naimaudio.com/user_avatar/community.naimaudio.com/felix/32/230463_2.png) [@Felix](https://community.naimaudio.com/u/Felix)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2022, 8:10pm UTC](https://community.naimaudio.com/t/show-us-your-atcs/25140/283 "2022-10-12T20:10:06Z")
@Patu I believe the SN is really not the best companion for the SCM40 passives, and your story confirms it. I have a NAP200, which is very similar to the SN amp you had. The NAP200 works nicely with the SCM11 and my SCM12’s, but not so well with SCM19. And pairing it with the SCM40’s…will leave you wanting, I can imagine. In home demo, the passive SCM40’s did much better with my NAP300. But still, somehow I was not as impressed with their mid-range as I was with the ATC two-ways. Less passive cross-over needed for two-ways, I suppose? The SCM50 passives might be another story. I haven’t heard them. Have you? ---
**Author:** ![Felix](https://community.naimaudio.com/user_avatar/community.naimaudio.com/felix/32/230463_2.png) [@Felix](https://community.naimaudio.com/u/Felix)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2022, 9:06pm UTC](https://community.naimaudio.com/t/show-us-your-atcs/25140/284 "2022-10-12T21:06:30Z")
> [@PeakMan](#): > > “…or what I heard in my very extensive comparisons of active vs passive (driven by 250DR) SCM 40s both at my dealers and at home. And openness and soundstage depth are both so better with the actives at least to my ears. I can only conclude that different listeners just listen in different ways…” @PeakMan note that @Iaudio87 was talking about the SCM50, which might be a different speaker in many ways. As for the SCM40 passives, in my home demo I was not getting the same NAP300 open sound from them as I’ve been getting from the SCM19’s or SCM 12 Pro’s or the the SCM 11’s (neither the same 3D soundstage - but I suppose my room dimensions were also not ideal for the SCM40). Which is actually kind of consistent with what you are describing. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![PeakMan](https://community.naimaudio.com/user_avatar/community.naimaudio.com/peakman/32/8673_2.png) [@PeakMan](https://community.naimaudio.com/u/PeakMan)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2022, 10:29am UTC](https://community.naimaudio.com/t/show-us-your-atcs/25140/285 "2022-10-13T10:29:56Z")
My post was a reply to @Hifi-dog who was replying to @Iaudio87 who said: > [@Iaudio87](#): > > And i heard it again last weekend at the Dutch Audio Event. ATC demomstrated the 40 active vs the 40 passive. It’s not the fault of the P1. The active setup lacked depth, tonal quality and soundstage. Sounds like a reference to the 40s to me. Roger ---
**Author:** ![Christopher\_M](https://community.naimaudio.com/user_avatar/community.naimaudio.com/christopher_m/32/288283_2.png) [@Christopher\_M](https://community.naimaudio.com/u/Christopher_M)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2022, 10:53am UTC](https://community.naimaudio.com/t/show-us-your-atcs/25140/286 "2022-10-13T10:53:09Z")
> [@Felix](#): > > The NAP200 works nicely with the SCM11 and my SCM12’s And SCM7s too, if you don’t mind! ---
**Author:** ![Patu](https://community.naimaudio.com/user_avatar/community.naimaudio.com/patu/32/452_2.png) [@Patu](https://community.naimaudio.com/u/Patu)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2022, 1:23pm UTC](https://community.naimaudio.com/t/show-us-your-atcs/25140/287 "2022-10-13T13:23:37Z")
> [@Felix](#): > > @Patu I believe the SN is really not the best companion for the SCM40 passives, and your story confirms it. I have a NAP200, which is very similar to the SN amp you had. The NAP200 works nicely with the SCM11 and my SCM12’s, but not so well with SCM19. And pairing it with the SCM40’s…will leave you wanting, I can imagine. > > In home demo, the passive SCM40’s did much better with my NAP300. But still, somehow I was not as impressed with their mid-range as I was with the ATC two-ways. Less passive cross-over needed for two-ways, I suppose? > > The SCM50 passives might be another story. I haven’t heard them. Have you? You’re absolutely correct, SN2 didn’t have enough grunt for 40’s. Not even with the HiCap DR. I remember once trying to remove the HCDR and drive it with bare SN2, the result was horrible. With HCDR there was decent grip and control of the speakers but compared to the actives, they lacked some serious oomph, control and dynamics. I’ve never heard the passive 50’s. When I went from 40A to 50ASL, it didn’t even cross my mind to go for passives. It simply makes no sense to me. ---
**Author:** ![BigAl](https://community.naimaudio.com/user_avatar/community.naimaudio.com/bigal/32/74593_2.png) [@BigAl](https://community.naimaudio.com/u/BigAl)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2022, 7:16pm UTC](https://community.naimaudio.com/t/show-us-your-atcs/25140/288 "2022-10-13T19:16:31Z")
![20221013_195824](https://d2ikyu8xyuibjx.cloudfront.net/original/3X/1/c/1cb67ccdad24de29472aab2041408d4a00ecc1ed.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Pete.T](https://community.naimaudio.com/user_avatar/community.naimaudio.com/pete.t/32/395099_2.png) [@Pete.T](https://community.naimaudio.com/u/Pete.T)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2022, 4:04pm UTC](https://community.naimaudio.com/t/show-us-your-atcs/25140/289 "2022-10-18T16:04:08Z")
Has anyone seen any Classic series ATC’s in Oak ? I’ve just been offered a pair of November 2021 50 ASL for a fairly decent price . I’ve always favoured cherry or walnut . I’m waiting on pictures . ---
**Author:** ![lazyscott](https://community.naimaudio.com/user_avatar/community.naimaudio.com/lazyscott/32/185266_2.png) [@lazyscott](https://community.naimaudio.com/u/lazyscott)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2022, 4:23pm UTC](https://community.naimaudio.com/t/show-us-your-atcs/25140/290 "2022-10-18T16:23:52Z")
Here’s a pic i grab off the net. ![image](https://d2ikyu8xyuibjx.cloudfront.net/original/3X/a/b/ab56c45065df7e45f183d28494b9b7322989c307.jpeg) I think they look great, wish they would have made the 40’s in oak. ---
**Author:** ![Pete.T](https://community.naimaudio.com/user_avatar/community.naimaudio.com/pete.t/32/395099_2.png) [@Pete.T](https://community.naimaudio.com/u/Pete.T)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2022, 4:30pm UTC](https://community.naimaudio.com/t/show-us-your-atcs/25140/291 "2022-10-18T16:30:01Z")
Thanks , sometimes a bit hard to judge the finish online . I’ve got oak floors so thinking maybe a bit too much oak . I’ve just been sent a few pictures of actual speakers , here’s one below . Definitely a bit lighter than ideal for me but I’m told much better in the flesh . ![65A1D126-A43C-4F3F-A14B-EC9AD347437A_1_201_a](https://d2ikyu8xyuibjx.cloudfront.net/original/3X/f/5/f57d8ced586e646ea13d4efc8a30a7a22e77e617.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![lazyscott](https://community.naimaudio.com/user_avatar/community.naimaudio.com/lazyscott/32/185266_2.png) [@lazyscott](https://community.naimaudio.com/u/lazyscott)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2022, 4:54pm UTC](https://community.naimaudio.com/t/show-us-your-atcs/25140/292 "2022-10-18T16:54:40Z")
Agree, it might be a bit to much! I still think i’d have them though. ---
**Author:** ![Tapp](https://community.naimaudio.com/user_avatar/community.naimaudio.com/tapp/32/449471_2.png) [@Tapp](https://community.naimaudio.com/u/Tapp)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2022, 5:08pm UTC](https://community.naimaudio.com/t/show-us-your-atcs/25140/293 "2022-10-18T17:08:00Z")
They look stunning to me and don’t know vendor just had to say! Front/side on profile looks absolutely right aesthetic for me. Quality blends well I’ve found. YMMV 😀. ---
**Author:** ![Hifi-dog](https://community.naimaudio.com/user_avatar/community.naimaudio.com/hifi-dog/32/378_2.png) [@Hifi-dog](https://community.naimaudio.com/u/Hifi-dog)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2022, 6:13pm UTC](https://community.naimaudio.com/t/show-us-your-atcs/25140/294 "2022-10-18T18:13:30Z")
Most phone cameras will change the tone of colours slightly so I’d go for it, they look stunning ---
**Author:** ![Pete.T](https://community.naimaudio.com/user_avatar/community.naimaudio.com/pete.t/32/395099_2.png) [@Pete.T](https://community.naimaudio.com/u/Pete.T)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2022, 7:24pm UTC](https://community.naimaudio.com/t/show-us-your-atcs/25140/295 "2022-10-18T19:24:48Z")
Very tempting , they are a good price but even so a lot of money so need to be sure on finish as they will be keepers . I’m going to go and have a look at them before the weekend hopefully . This is rear view . ![AFB03B08-46EF-4218-BA09-9D56C96080F5_1_201_a](https://d2ikyu8xyuibjx.cloudfront.net/original/3X/7/2/720db123bb586e83c63026a01b009e9ed98702dd.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Monkey\_Jim](https://community.naimaudio.com/user_avatar/community.naimaudio.com/monkey_jim/32/666_2.png) [@Monkey\_Jim](https://community.naimaudio.com/u/Monkey_Jim)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2022, 7:29pm UTC](https://community.naimaudio.com/t/show-us-your-atcs/25140/296 "2022-10-18T19:29:52Z")
Good luck @Pete.T I have oak floors and bought walnut 50s for the contrast. Looking at those oak photos though I wonder whether I made the wrong decision. They look great, even allowing for mobile phone colour approximations. Listening to mine now and loving every minute. ---
**Author:** ![Farthings-cat](https://community.naimaudio.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/f/a183cd/32.png) [@Farthings-cat](https://community.naimaudio.com/u/Farthings-cat)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2022, 7:35pm UTC](https://community.naimaudio.com/t/show-us-your-atcs/25140/297 "2022-10-18T19:35:52Z")
![image](https://d2ikyu8xyuibjx.cloudfront.net/original/3X/e/1/e15ac7c6e7da97fa8ea6d4a82abc816075f13519.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Pete.T](https://community.naimaudio.com/user_avatar/community.naimaudio.com/pete.t/32/395099_2.png) [@Pete.T](https://community.naimaudio.com/u/Pete.T)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2022, 7:37pm UTC](https://community.naimaudio.com/t/show-us-your-atcs/25140/298 "2022-10-18T19:37:11Z")
Thanks , I’m with you regarding the contrast with the Oak floors which is why I’m debating and yours look wonderful btw . I’m hoping my mind will be made up in a positive way when I see them in the flesh . ---
**Author:** ![Monkey\_Jim](https://community.naimaudio.com/user_avatar/community.naimaudio.com/monkey_jim/32/666_2.png) [@Monkey\_Jim](https://community.naimaudio.com/u/Monkey_Jim)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2022, 7:38pm UTC](https://community.naimaudio.com/t/show-us-your-atcs/25140/299 "2022-10-18T19:38:09Z")
Also lovely @Farthings-cat This looks like a listening room at some high end studio! ---
**Author:** ![Monkey\_Jim](https://community.naimaudio.com/user_avatar/community.naimaudio.com/monkey_jim/32/666_2.png) [@Monkey\_Jim](https://community.naimaudio.com/u/Monkey_Jim)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2022, 7:42pm UTC](https://community.naimaudio.com/t/show-us-your-atcs/25140/300 "2022-10-18T19:42:33Z")
Yes, hopefully the colour works for you. The quality of the veneer on every pair of 50s I’ve seen has always been consistently great. Mine were a dealers ex-dem pair, supposedly lightly used, although I’m sure even if they were heavily abused, they’re still more than up to the task. Enjoy. ---
**Author:** ![AllanP](https://community.naimaudio.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/b9bd4f/32.png) [@AllanP](https://community.naimaudio.com/u/AllanP)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2022, 12:38pm UTC](https://community.naimaudio.com/t/show-us-your-atcs/25140/301 "2022-10-19T12:38:48Z")
Buy the speakers … change the floor! ---
**Author:** ![Pete.T](https://community.naimaudio.com/user_avatar/community.naimaudio.com/pete.t/32/395099_2.png) [@Pete.T](https://community.naimaudio.com/u/Pete.T)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2022, 2:18pm UTC](https://community.naimaudio.com/t/show-us-your-atcs/25140/302 "2022-10-19T14:18:11Z")
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