You may consider Isoacoustics Gaia for your Neats before changing something in your system.
Hi again,
No a SC is an improvement over 2 HCs fuller sound and better resolution. I use a 282/sc/250 with Kudos 505s and I think it’s a rich full sound. In many ways the 505s and XLis are similar but the Kudos are easier to integrate, less fussy about placement.
I think your only way out of this is to try various options. Given how good your speakers are I’d still start with the amps. Have you a dealer who could lend you a SC or a 252/300 for home trial? If you opt to change the speakers there are just so many you might try!
Final point, rack and wiring can really affect the sound. What rack do you have? A dedicated radial spur is a real upgrade as well.
Best regards,
Lindsay
1 Like
Of course the OP’s source remains a mystery. Any advice is academic until we know that.
No he’s got a top turntable.
I have 282 and 250DR with single HiCap
When auditioning speakers, I had a loan of neat ultimatum speakers and could not get on with them at all
Really disliked the sound
I now have Audiovector speakers which I consider MUCH better for about the same price (at the time of purchase)
I had a CDX2 at the time but now NDX2 with XPS2
[quote=“Nichols.paul2, post:8, topic:19177, full:true”]strong text
hi i play vinyl on an origin live resolution t/table, illustrious tonearm, Ortofon Winfield TI, and van den hul grail phono stage. I would like to have a more rounded full sound. I am not sure about upgrade to the speakers or amps. Is a supercap the same as two high caps? I am not unhappy with the set up but I guess I am on a journey !
[/quote]
Mystery resolved 
Ah, missed that.
1 Like
I tried PMC. Twenty5 26. Great detailed sound. Good base limited soundstage; but not as musical as my neat xli’s. Perhaps i will buy a supercap and save for a 252DR. That would prepare fo a nap300. I know it’s hard to know how much better that would be than my nac282 nap250. The cost is a lot. Is it worth it?
Hi thanks, i might do that. Tell me what’s your experience with them thanks
If you’re in the US or Canada, I’d go with Totem Forests or Totem forest signatures.
I’m running NDX2/282/250 with totem signature ones and a sub.
In summary, changes of Gaias (in my system);
- Overall slightly more relaxed sound with better flow but keeping the dynamics intact
- Reduced hardness, harshness and smearing, resulting in a cleaner sound from top to bottom
- Tighter and more defined bass. As the bass sounds cleaner, there may be an impression of a slightly reduced bass. The previous (increased) bass response may be just bass resonance.
- Slightly improved macrodynamics
- Improved tone in the treble and percussion instrument
1 Like
I have had the 282/250 with Spendor D9 which was lovely. Something to consider?!
Impossible to respond if the cost worth it. It’s very personal. For me, yes.
Something to consider. Assuming your speakers are suited to your listening environment upgrading your electronics is the least risky strategy, in effect a SC with or without a 252 and possibly 300 is going to enrich what comes out of the Neats. Changing speakers however will possibly yield a bigger upgrade and certainly considerable change in total colour but there is more risk in getting that right.
Regards,
Lindsay
It partly depends on whether you want different or better. Your speakers a very good and improving the electronics will certainly make the system better. But that’s no use if you aren’t really sure about the speakers.
I used Dynaudio Evoke 50s with a 282/300 and they worked well.
Have upgraded to 252 but kept the 50s.
Kudos Titan 606’s (if you prefer floorstanders father than stand mount speakers). I use them with exactly the same amplification you have.
Ciao Lindsay
To my curiosity in order to have the kudos live do you need to have a good volume or do you have dynamic with low volume as well?
Thanks a lot
Pietro
Hi @piebia. Good question! My inclination is to turn up the volume particularly on vinyl 
but no you get the full enjoyment at lower volume. However, a NAP 300 gives more at lower volumes.
This topic was automatically closed 60 days after the last reply. New replies are no longer allowed.