I suspect most of us have felt for days that there’d be no happy ending here.
I thought the US Coastguard handled their press conference well, and good to see a Royal Navy representation but I was dismayed that the media questions seemed like total cacophony - how little respect they showed with their screams and squeals to try to get a question in.
It must be awful for the families, but I thought this was an extremely sensible comment:
If only as much attention and effort was focused on the migrants who lose their lives in unsafe ships at the hands of criminal gangs. Hundreds are dying all the time, trying to make a better life for themselves. There were 500 deaths off Greece only last week. The hugely wealthy individuals on the sub, who were able to spend £200,000 on a trip that they knew was hugely risky, have had goodness knows what resources used to look for them. Of course it’s sad, but the double standards are breathtaking.
The criminal gangs are the problem and utter scoundrels in my view (doubt anyone disagrees).
The migration question is polarising and too political to sensibly debate here, though I must admit it crossed my mind that the individuals sadly lost were mostly very financially privileged and were engaged in a potentially pretty risky pursuit. They were ultimately humans and as fragile as most of us would have been in such a situation.
I’d like to think (or maybe wouldn’t) that the media frenzy was due to this being Titanic related but I suspect not.
We have to draw positives and I think that comes down to international collaboration in the hope of a positive outcome even if this was a highly specific operation.
I expect the operation will now start to wind down. Perhaps the collaboration may falter when the costs are apportioned…? Most of the vessels involved are commercial, so are likely to look to recover their costs. Will the US, Canadian, French or UK governments all pay up…? Or will OceanGate be the target…?
The documents they had to sign referred to risk of death three times on the first page. It’s not certified as meeting any standards. It’s navigated with a PlayStation controller. Occupants are bolted in from the outside with 17 bolts. It looks like a death trap.
The Titanic is full of bodies, a seabed grave. Why can’t it just be left alone? This thrill seeking by millionaires - submarines, going into space, it’s ridiculous when there are so many better things to be doing.
Heck that’s a good point, I’d not thought of that.
I hope it doesn’t sound crass but this is one instance where a ‘no win, no fee’ type involvement might have been laudable. Altruistic on failure for whatever reason, and recovery of costs plus huge press coverage as benefits were there a successful outcome.
I’d honestly just like to think the commercial companies were being altruistic either way.
The inner hull carbon fibre construction was certainly ‘controversial’, and I believe a former employee may have raised legitimate concerns over material quality but I don’t think it’s particularly relevant if the occupants made an informed decision on a risky trip, that’s their choice ultimately however sad, and we don’t honestly know what failed. Space shuttles have failed, in terms of mechanical stresses I’d imagine these were similar just different (pressure vs thermal).
Yes, I tend to agree though admit I was fascinated by a 3d fly through linked by the BBC a few weeks ago created from thousands of separate images (individual images are limited in terms of depth of fiels and area covered). Will try to find the link.
I guess the Titanic disaster was more recent but should we have left pyramids and other archaeological sites untouched?