I’ve decided too give the Oppo BDP105D Transport well deserved break. I’m playing contious- random FLAC files from my external hard drive. Billy Gibbons, Perfectamundo has great momentum, and the bass is driving. The Super Lumina DIN5-5 Deep-Cryo cable is up next.
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FWIW I bought an inexpensive digit cable for my Oppo105D to digital out into my nDAC and the results are pretty outstanding. I really don’t play CD’s anymore but it’s nice to have options.
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Great news, I was getting impatient for you😎. Please let us know how it sounds.
I have mine firing straight ahead, and never found a toe-in good on my Totem Hawks or Forest Signatures. They are designed not to need them and hold there imaging from different listening positions. Off course, it’s good to try various positions etc for the best interaction with the room.
I’d say my Forest Signatures are end-game. A delightful and natural presentation.
Mike_S - I will keep everyone on the addition of the SL DIN5-5 's. In addition, I have always faced my Forest Signatures directly forward however I’ll try a slight variation. I have them resting on 2 inch thick maple plinths. And the Signatures are my favorite speakers too. They’ve got the Tone, Texture and Timbre anyone could want.
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Hello everyone - It’s been about two weeks since my last post. Day 60 on the Supernait 3. Getting better every day. Amazing little amplifier. Driving the Totem Forest Signatures with authority.
The Super Lumina DIN5-5 is amazing! It’s like no other cable I’ve ever used before. It’s very neutral so it let’s the basic characteristics of the components shine through. It’s like “air” between the NDAC and the Supernait 3. Bass is tight! No bloat, fast and high frequencies are fantastic.
The Synergistic Research Digital is ok. I believe I’m going to make a change when I am able. The Chord Company has one I’ve got my eye on.
The NACA5 is proving to be very good as well. It took many hours but they are performing well. The system has very good PRaT. Great momentum without listeners fatigue. It’s the most musical system I’ve owned. It’s engaging at all volume levels. Low, med, high - it keeps your feet tapping.
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You can take this to the bank.
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10a is two High Caps.
Two hicaps doesn’t lead to the 252. It is a long term commitment to the 282/250 combo. The price difference between two hicaps and a supercap is insignificant in the grand scheme of our shared goal. Two hicaps + 2 power lines is $7,200. Supercap + 1 powerline + extra cable is $8,800.
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I like your list. I’d only move the Fraim (good support) before the SL Din -Din.
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Well Quadrispire EVO is expected upon purchase of the NDX2 & SNx. Vibration control value becomes more evident with separates. The upgraded interconnect will sound better early on AND buying an expensive Din → Din cable makes straying from the Naim path much more difficult. All cables should be purchased on secondary market or ex demo. Fraim has a design element and the correct color combination for the room could be difficult to find preowned.
Of course the one true path allows flexibility for out of order changes in the event good deals appear in the secondary market. I have a 300DR, no Fraim, a 282/hicap, SL Din → XLR, and SL speaker wire. The benefit of the upgraded speaker wire is minimal to me and mostly due to it being easier to manage.
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Katzky2021 - That is a mighty ambitious upgrade list! I offer my best to you and hope you succeed.
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Don’t do the 252/300 if 552/500 is the goal. It’s a pointless step. Rather wait and do the 552/250 and then 552/500.
I’d say -
282/Hicap/250
552/250
552/500
If you can’t do 552 and 500 at the same time.
Cables - just buy them opportunistically when they appear on the s/h market.
Don’t get cables that don’t accrue to the end goal.
Also - listen to the end goal system before you make it the end goal - you shouldn’t slay the dragon and realize it wasn’t even hiding any treasure!
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The more I’m back on the forum… the more I start thinking 
“hey! Maybe I DO need a 552 right now 
$34k preamps make sense…”
Already have the 300 and unlikely to ever get a 500. Was going to buy a Supercap but can’t find an ex dem. Can’t find an ex dem 552 either. Not buying new unless dealer allows an in home demo and that’s not happening. Can get a Diablo 300 for $16.5k from local dealer. Supposed to be very nice but it looks weird and doesn’t have a green Naim logo. Can’t really demo that either so…
Why don’t you enjoy what you have and wait until a good used 252 or 552 comes up.
The One Truth is to be content with what you have and don’t have.
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I never give advice on Naim equipment because i don’t know what i am talking about (thankyou for the applause!) But my personal understanding would be Supernait 2. was a
very good amp however in some situations depending on the speaker load and volume
level required the power supply had been under specified by Naim and the solution was
to spend more money on a separate supply if your speakers were as i just described.
Supernait 3. has a inbuilt upgraded power supply which rectifies the previous deficiency.
So what makes you think the power supply is lacking?
Or do you think that adding boxes some how gives you a better sound!
I have no idea why you do not find S/N 3. sufficient as it is but would suggest if you wish
to improve your system you look at another area entirely after you have explored that if you
require further advancements some of the complete amp changes others have mentioned
would be the most logical if you can afford them - but do you Really want to go down that path?
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If you admit that you do not know what you are talking about, how do you arrive at the conclusion that Naim deliberately chooses to offer products that are badly specified and contain inherent deficiencies?
While many owners of Naim products choose to invest in additional power supplies, not all of them do and still seem to be happy with what they have.
Have you actually listened to the products concerned, both with and without an additional power supply? If you have not, then I struggle to grasp how you can develop an informed opinion and achieve a better understanding, rather than post what I see as baseless conjecture.
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I think you may have misunderstood. You are certainly not shy in giving advice on Naim equipment, despite your protestations to the contrary. By any measure, the power supplies that Naim use within their equipment are at the very least more (much more) than adequate for their purpose. Now, if you had argued that Naim over specified their power supplies, you may have more of a point. However, one of the main keys to high performance is the quality of the power supply, so I think Naim could be forgiven for placing so much importance on the power supply, to the point where they offer you the option of adding an even bigger and better power supply should you so wish.
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It’s worth noting that adding a power supply to the SN2 improves the preamp, not the power amp, so it really doesn’t help with driving difficult speakers. There may be a very marginal gain because the inbuilt supply no longer has to power the preamp, but any impact on the power amp will be very marginal.
For what it’s worth I have no power supply on my Supernait 3 and it’s perfectly fine just as it is. It’s got more extensive DR than the SN2 and by all accounts benefits less from a Hicap, something I’m more than happy about.
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well, I just wonder … do people not find it a bit strange and anachronistic in this day and age to have a rack, half of which is sometimes duplicate boxes containing redundant or extra power supplies? I just don’t find the importance of power supplies (no question about it) a good enough excuse not to come up with better philosophy and designs.
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Rather a strange comment on a forum run by Naim to imply their philosophy and designs are behind the times. I think other forum members and @Richard.Dane and @Naim.Marketing may wish to comment!!
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