And this is just the tip of the iceberg. All of these appear to be AI generated, and the credits follow more or less the same pattern: Producer and Vocals are credited to an existing artist (who obviously has nothing to do with the content), and Composer and Lyricist are some obscure (and possibly also AI generated) name.
I know one can report these to Tidal as violating the content guidelines, but the process is very cumbersome, and there are way too many tracks like these to make this effective. I fear this could mean the death of streaming, as it makes my updates feed virtually useless. Back to vinyl then?
It is one of the reasons I havenāt changed to Spotify. Itās bad enough that streaming services donāt pay smaller artists very much but to totally discard them in favour of AI is something I canāt accept.
Iāve not had any AI issues, but I have reported issues with a particular English artists called Venus, being credited to an American artists called Venus. I have emailed details to Tidal a few times, and sometimes get a response to say they are working on it, then all comms stop. Only once has it been corrected. Even the artist has the same issues. As you can see below, the artists are not the same, and their music is completely different.
Back to streaming from your own stored music files, I suggest. Just use online services to check out new music. Of course, if you like the AI generated music thereās no issue!
Seriously, maybe itās not the death of online streaming, but the end of any income for musicians other than what they can get from playing live, which when effectively excluded from mainstream exposure might never get wider than to local audiences. I.e. a return to the life of minstrels of centuries past .
Artists with the exact same name being lumped together is a totally different issue of course. Streaming services should learn from the approach taken on e.g. MusicBrainz.
[Side note: there are (at least) two totally different artists named Andy Sheppard. The saxophonist changed his last name to all caps: Andy SHEPPARD, I assume to avoid the confusion. Interestingly, the other Andy Sheppard now suffers from the AI tracks I mentioned in my first post. Seems their AI model isnāt smart enough, because it does look like theyāre targeting jazz artists (for now), and picked the wrong oneā¦ ]
I prefer suggestions by real people, as I do not know what sort of music the algorithms like and although they may presume to know my preferences based on other things to which I have listened, in my albeit limited, experience they do not understand what it is that makes me like one piece of music and not another - but then thatās hardly surprising as I donāt myself!
I stopped reading that thread as over 99% of the suggestions there were not for me. Similarly the Jazz Music Thread appears to be mostly about posting music from far back into the previous millennium.
[I was about to write: āAnd in the very unlikely event that someone suggested Eyolf Dale there, youād go to their Tidal profile and look at their recent tracks ā¦etcā¦ā ā but then I actually went to Eyolf Daleās profile on Tidal again just now, and the AI tracks were gone! So at least someone has woken up. Quite a few of the other tracks are still there, e.g. Trygve Seimās most recent ones are listed as:
Iāve a simple fix for this, read up the info on the artist,. If there is none, well thats probably best left. No doubt that will soon be poisoned as well though.
Full agreement. My taste in music these days is mainly free improvisation, free and avant-garde jazz and new music. I discover more music than I can listen to from reading things like The Wire magazine and the Free Jazz Blog. In the past my favoured gatekeepers were the NME and John Peel. I only use streaming to check out new stuff I havenāt heard. I just stick the new stuff in Roons āListen Laterā feature and either buy it eventually if I like it or delete it if I donāt. Music is far too important to me to let some AI algorithm choose.
The composer credits is the one that gets paid, and then they use a known artist name to get the song played. There is a lot of this going on now. As long as the streaming services allow you to write anything without even a simple password when you upload it will go on.
Iām no fan of anything curated. There are vastly superior means of discovering new music like critics or magazines or friends etc. Iāve subs to Qobuz and Tidal and have yet to look at anything other than new releases each Friday.
Remember radio is now streaming. You can always let a human drive and choose non algorithm or AI curated stations to provide discovery of new music.
To me, rather than Tidal and Spotify etc. web radio is the ultimate in streaming. Not for audio quality but for content. I can then fall back on my local media for the high fedility sessions.
While the changes to the industry seem like a race to the bottom, they will eventually come back to bite it. Donāt be surprised if those services hit rock bottom and bankruptcy if they carry on in this way for another decade. The mass consumer, though pretty stupid, isnāt brain dead. They will switch off eventually.
I donāt pay to stream Tidal or Qobuz anymore. If I want highest quality I listen to my rips via NAS. I buy CDās or download HiRes from HDTracks. And for variety I do stream internet radio which is very often analog and sounds really good !
Now I just scroll through the hundreds of tracks or artists or albums or playlists I have on Qobuz until I find or think of something that I want to hear, and also occasionally pick up ideas from the music threads on here.
The first part of that is a contradiction in terms! I guess you mean that the source is often analog recordings? With the latter part of that quote confirming that digitising need not make recorded music sound bad?
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