The Naim New Classic range - Part 1

Merely relaying what we were told. All three dealers are naim evangelists, long standing relationships with naim, will wax lyrical about pre/power/streaming/power supplies, give listening impressions of systems, discuss cabling, give extensive demos, spend hours on phone or in person discussing naim, sell and support kit you wish to buy. We’ve spent £10k’s on naim kit with them. Mention the Core and their eyes glaze over and they ask how the weather is where you are?

The json files aren’t the issue, I offered someone recently a script which would stuff their manual edits from those into FLAC it’s a trivial problem to solve.

However storing metadata in a proprietary format outside music files means you can’t lift files onto a USB drive, phone/pad, personal player, other upnp server and get all the info. Not being able to edit/ correct metadata in bulk without moving files to certain folders is just inconvenience. We can run Picard over our entire collection at any point if we wish.

We have the technical skills to work round all that.

The actual reasons we discounted the Core were 1) no disk redundancy - give us mirroring and 2) no cloud backup - give us cloud sync.

Synology NAS ticks both boxes above. With Asset it was simply a far more compelling offering from both technical and usability viewpoints.

In the NSP222 setup there is an option to configure it as a UPNP server. I didn’t select this as I have a Melco. However, it would be interesting to see how it performs as one with an SSD plugged into the rear USB.

Absolutely agree. I think offering powered and non- powered versions of 222 and ndx2 is a great idea, plus it will tempt more customers to buy npx300, good for Naim.

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That wouldn’t fly under UK employment law. You would be being made redundant in UK.

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Did not know about this option so very interested.

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It’s app controlled; was somewhere in this thread.

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Oooo
That’s interesting to know
Thanks for sharing

They have the same DAC

I doubt it makes cost sense to do that. The cost of the power supply was mainly the R&D. The transformers themselves are about $100-150 each. Omitting it on some models would cost more in changes and branched production lines than it would provide any saving to the customer.

The same logic is, I suspect, behind the simplification of the power supplies down to the NPX300. Clearly it won’t be fully utilised in some scenarios (like a SuperCap on a 282 to draw a comparison), but providing more granular versions costs Naim more and complicates the offering to the end customer.

The same things were said about the original NDX and ND5XS. But I bought my NDX with an XPSdr as a set and the unused power supply in the NDX never kept me up at night.

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But didn’t BA resort back to the earlier design ? So maybe Naim should…

Your analogy supports the idea of returning to green.

Albeit with perhaps statutory minimum.

Could not disagree more. There will be a gain from having R&D in same place as manufacture. Also economies change over time , up and down so would not base a business model on a temp change in the economy.
Best all round to keep both in UK

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Just spent a couple of hours having an extended listen at my lovely dealer (Music Matters in Stratford-on-Avon) and im hugely impressed, sound quality, , build quality, simplicity, ease of operation, this is all a massive upward shift from previous generation.

I have NDS/555PS/Supernait2 (the weak link!), so the 200 Series isnt for me, but i will be keenly awaiting whats to come with future products in the new format and engineering design with a view to a change.

Great job Naim, cannot praise highly enough :facepunch::facepunch::facepunch:

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I wonder if there will also be a Naim/Focal active speaker as an alternative to e.g. the ATC SCM40A.

I thought this but I guess it moves radically away from the current approach. I assume this is being looked into but will take time to have a good combined approach. Who knows, hopefully some of the knowledge and experience in Naim’s past speakers is still there to influence things as well

Steve, is it suggested, a transition to a bare supernait3 adding the 250dr or not yet because of the new balanced connections?

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I’ve been trying to find a picture using Google but have so far failed. I’m quite tenacious though :wink:

A really good, high quality preamp (likely tube)with active speakers is the only alternative to a Naim I would take seriously. Not that I am even considering moving away from Naim. It’s the bees knees!

I was sure there was a picture on the forum, but searched this morning in vain!

Perhaps our esteemed Mod has removed the evidence… :crazy_face: