Hahaha…sew the seed of doubt to the audiophile golden ears brigade !
In saying that, mines flawless…. Truly a wee gem….
Great, I love it!!
What kind of turntable is this?
Claims of something being just better than other in hifi are always highly subjective and are often, not always, based on certain kind of bias. It is far more precise to say better in certain areas, dynamics, nuance, timing, frequecny response, etc. N50 is definitely better when it comes to clarity and timing compared to any of the combos you compared it to. It lacks for an instance the soundstage and authority of the bigger systems. Thus claiming it is simply not better is not necessarily a true statement.
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I agree apart from soundstage… the N50 is second to none there…
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Maybe my expression should have been soundstage width, not just soundstage. Sound is not that wide compared to the sound of the separates. But it is a solid one nevertheless…
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Well the best ever sound imaging width and depth I have ever experienced is with the N50 and Falcon Acoustic Gold Build LS3/5a.. I can sit completely to one side and the sound and imaging fills the room, the speakers disappear.. now it might be all down to the Falcons, but usually takes two to tango.
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Same for me with my Atohm’s.
It’s not as good as 332/300/250 that I had before. That had a greater sense of musicians being projected into the room. Not far off though.
I had a 202/200 for a long time and although that was a long time ago it certainly gives me more enjoyment than the 202/200, perhaps approaching the 252/300 that replaced, but as I said a while ago.
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I own all 3 nait 50, 202/200 dr and 282/250dr and therefore have some basis of my opinion. Nait 50 is a nice amplifier and I like the looks and size, but very much hyped up by tremendous and in my view, exceptional hyperbole on this forum.
No it definitely does not beat my 202/200dr for clarity or timing
If in fact some claim it is the new naim sound like the new 200 or 300 series then I hear no reason at all to upgrade my existing amps…I don’t hear this new naim sound ?
I report what I hear
Also I’m wondering how a certain hi fi magazine reviewed the amp? I don’t hear the puppy dog character of the amp they say it had.
Did they use NAC A5 speaker cable? Did they use a chord Dac, and the same vertere rca to din interconnect as I did?
blimey
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Didn’t you feel the 552DR/250 had any favors with those speakers ?
No disrespect but this statement goes to show that in the end of the day we all perceive sound very very differently and this is the reason why - if we aim to help others - we should refrain from making definitive “factual” statements when in actuality they are just an opinion.
While I don’t argue that your experience with the NN50 was a lack of soundstage compared to bigger system, my experience with my NN50 is that it presents one of the biggest and holographic soundstage I’ve ever experienced even compared to my considerably bigger system that I had in a dedicated music room. In fact soundstaging is one of NN50s bigger strengths IME.
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I don’t care much about soundstage
What I do care is how much fun I’m having while listening to AC/DC or Audioslave on my 3 systems
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That is exactly what it comes down to… the enjoying of the music that moves us. Well said.
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I did not ever ls3/5a with my 552/250. When I had that amp I was using ATC, Russell K, Acoustic Energy and PMC.
The 252DR /250 I felt was also excellent at near field with several stand mounts.
Listening to Patrice Rushen - Remind Me.. as I type… and the vibe and feel is superb 
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My preference for the Nait 50 is in a near field setting.
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My basis for posting is that as I said earlier I own all the amps, and am playing the AC/DC live in river plate album on them, this album was mixed by Mike Fraser who excels in clarity and details. Phil Rudd’s drumming is exceptionally well recorded on this album, and Angus and the late Malcolm Young’s guitar sound fantastic.
I think it is important to remember what exactly the Nait 50 is.
It is simply for me a modern day Nait 1 (which I have not heard - but I did own a Nait XS1 which was fantastic), with a few more watts and upgraded with more modern technology (such as reed relays, maybe a better transformer and capacitors) and SMT boards with very short signal path.
I would like to ask our own moderator @Richard.Dane what he is using in his daily listening (as far as I remember it is still a 552/250DR?)
as per Naim website
“In celebration of our fifty-year love affair with sound, we are paying homage to our iconic NAIT 1 integrated amplifier, which was manufactured in England and has captured the hearts of countless music enthusiasts worldwide.”
In my auditions, I never liked the Supernait 1 or 3 when compared side by side to my 202/200DR/NAPSC
Today all day (much to the annoyance of my wife) I will be playing apple club music radio to run it in more as I noticed some additional clarity after many such sessions of all day running in.
I certainly hope the Nait 50 and Nait XS3 will not be the last we have seen of the Nait line, as for me these are all analog amps, I don’t want a new uniti as they digitize the inputs, and I want to use my Chord DAC’s so it would have to be an all analog amp for me, and the 200 and 300 series are a bit too pricey for me…
Many of us have also owned what you own and more. Just because you seem to prefer one thing, that doesn’t mean all others feel the same way. Personally, I believe the 282 is raw, unrefined, and dirty sounding. The 250DR is uncontrolled and a bit bloated on the low end. Neither refined. I wouldn’t run either ever again. Time and technology has moved on. You feel differently.
The only thing the Nait 50 shares with the Nait 1 is the aesthetic and the RIAA curve on the phono stage.
With all due respect to Richard, why should anyone here care what he uses? Why are you using this to try to justify your current feelings?
blimey - such zeal for the Nait 50.
Yes the 282 does sound “broken” next to a 552DR that is what I have heard myself, but I don’t know on what basis you can say that time and technology have moved on. The Nait 50 uses the LM317 regulators, not the DR ones. No 009 transistors either, just the Sanken ones. As for the 250DR, of course it isn’t a 300DR or a 500DR, but it is also priced way below those 2 power amps.
Anyway … I report what I hear… simple as that. I was maybe led to expect too much from the Nait 50 based on the extraordinary hyperbole on the forum, and while it is a very good amplifier, it doesn’t beat my separates to my hearing.
It is fine… I got a good discount, and it is ok with me.
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I believe these are one of the least popular and liked Naim amps made? Shows how different we are in what we enjoy. All ok. As long as you don’t put baby in a corner 
I run a 333/332/300/NC250, but also own a Nait 50 as well as equipment from many other manufacturers. I’m not some Nait 50 defender. You keep trying to justify your opinion by insinuating everyone who owns a Nait 50 is just exaggerating what they’re hearing. I don’t know why all these people would do such a thing as they have nothing to gain from it.
It has. The 282 was designed 25 years ago. I’ve owned it, tons of other Naim eqiupment, and tons of equipment from other manufacturers at varying price levels.
You’re missing the point. You’ve stated your piece. There is no need to try to justify your opinion if you feel confident in it. Use what you choose just as others who feel differently will do.
So other’s opinions are hyperbole simply because you feel differently? Your opinion is just as valid as other’s, but there is no need to insinuate a differing opinion is hyperbole simply because you feel differently.
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Oh I completely agree. The 202 to my ears pairs well with the nap 200 when they mask each others weaknesses. In the case of 202 rather obvious weaknesses !
I would much rather have a 282/200dr !
The 202 isn’t Naim’s finest moment but I guess it makes the existence of Nac 282 make sense
For playing AC/DC though the 202/200 within a certain volume range and speakers that don’t expose the amp… it is a lot of fun !
I front my 202/200 with a chord qutest which may explain why I still like it