It’s a ProJect RPM 9 - picked it up for almost nothing from a friend who was no longer using it.
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I do like both 
The problem with the 202/200 is that it are separates which will require attention to be setup properly. Once done, they start delivering. The integrated amps are much less sensitive for this because they’re designed for simplicity.
I don’t have a 202 setup, but I do have a 72/hi/140 and whilst the 72/hi/140 always work nice, they start delivering when setup properly (distance between 72 and the hicap and 140, proper cables, stable support etc cetera) and fed by a good source.
That’s kind of what I hear when going back and forward between my amps a bit of ethereal-ness in the air on some tracks particularly Choral (Northern Lights by Ola Gjeilo an example) subtle details missing from inflections in vocals micro inner textural clues of instruments all though very subtle to be fair and only when using Dave.
Whilst I do notice it doesn’t affect my enjoyment in any way as there are still other aspects the N50 brings to the table that I enjoy also.
Think also the sonics from N50 definitely benefit from it being warmed up. I don’t leave mine on 24/7 but it’s definitely something I notice after it’s been playing up a few hours music seem to flow with a more effortlessly drive to it.
My comment wasn’t directed at you. Nor did I ask what your habits are. The guy is trying to run in an amplifier while trying to evaluate its performance. The manual specifically states to stop the amplifier from entering standby for optimum performance. You seem defensive for no reason.
These are the types of comments that make me question how you’re evaluating the system. You shouldn’t be picking out one aspect of one song and switching back and forth. Put the amplifier in the system for a few weeks and then switch back to the other amplifiers for a few weeks. Leave both setups on while they aren’t in use. There is no need to rush a decision.
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I agree
But I have them in separate rooms with very similar Dynaudio speakers. Both have chord Dacs
No decision to be made by the way the amp is staying for a long time for now
So you have the amplifiers in different rooms and with different speakers? You’re comparing two totally different systems. Enough said.
I do understand but I had the same sources speakers cables and etc… on my 202/200 dr…
My 2 Dynaudios have virtually identical high frequency behaviours. I have compared them side by side extensively
Unlike many others who posted I have the naim 3 amps and systems running at the same time. Not relying on audio memories here and playing one very specific track “shot down in flames” from the live in river plate album by ACDC
I remain not convinced… enough said indeed 
it’s perfectly fine by me. I got a good deal
Wow what a concert, I do not listen to Rock music in general, but this concert seems to have been a pretty epic venue. I have just heard the remastered version on the tube and downloaded off Qobuz the raw version, not sure which one I like better tbh, both have their strengths, the remaster sounds fuller, but it is very polished, way too polished maybe, like they tried to make it sound like a CD recording if that makes sense, the raw version on the other hand has its limitations, but it certainly sounds more lifelike, sounds like what a real concert should sound like, but it lacks the grunt, the drums are a bit pushed to the back, guitars and vocals are more prominent, compared to the remaster. Both enjoyable on the N50 though
I didn’t think it was, not by one second.
I was merely making a comment for those who wish to read it, no defense meant at all. If you don’t like my writing you can use the ignore button, its a free decision to use, maybe you didn’t know this forum feature ?.
In generel, I don’t care if people choose to have their kit on standby or not, Nait 50 or anything else where possible. I just express my own scenario and what I choose to do.
It’s one of the most epic concerts ever captured on film and the audio is absolutely for me, fantastic thanks to skills of Mike Fraser, what a sound engineer!
Ali.. I suspect it’s not just for you.. there is no issue as far as I am concerned with phase and micro transients on the N50.. its second to none here.. I can very much hear into the production.. and orchestral work has waves and depth into my room.. I could use it as a mastering amp with my ls3/5a in near field but although it is slightly on the warm side of neutral.. its neutrality does tend to dominate so it doesn’t have that warm raise in the 100 to 300 Hz I have heard from some Naim setups..
But if it’s not for you, sell it on.. hopefully not a big deal…
I didn’t gel particularly with my 202DR / 200 setup.. with my ATCs.. it ticked many of the boxes, it just for me wasn’t engaging or resolving enough so I relatively quickly moved it on… so it would suggest at least you and I interprete recorded audio in different ways.. and/or it’s the speaker/room matching we are using is quite different.
Don’t get me wrong, the N50 is not perfect as you have heard me say elsewhere, but I think as an amp for near field with monitor type speakers it works well.. where it’s neutrality, unexagerated fine detail, phase response and micro transients works… plays out. Perhaps with more regular hifi speakers (with a smile freq response) into much larger spaces… I kind of feel it might struggle.
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I will give it more time for now not in any hurry. Besides I’m expecting a new Nait range maybe in the future ?
the 200dr is quite a different amp from the old nap 200, regardless if the 202 is powered by a Hicap DR. As it has minor improvements in layout. The old one was perceived by some to be a bit dry due to a ceiling in resolution but the 200DR is perceived to be sweeter sounding. Also the 200dr has ceramic insulation under the transistors, maybe the older 200 had Mica. A different sounding amp it seems. When I had them side by side they sounded different to me. At that time the 200dr sounded darker but I just upgraded regardless and never gave it much thought after that.
To be honest I like both versions of the Nap200 and ……….
I’m hoping the Nait 50 will open up more in the same way the Nap 200DR did
Not a great description but I did find mine both gained more fluidity over a period of time, where the dynamics had a more natural flow than the initial slightly up tight presentation.
I do think you are somewhat correct here, and it does depend on the genre. My Nait 50 which is well run in and has a superb source and like you Vertere cables excels at layered instrumentals and voices with an extraordinary high end, very controlled and never harsh and good sound stage. Ideal for Jazz, vocal and neofolk. However if you really push it hard with complex high energy rock Like the AC/DC recording) or very very complex heavy dark wave industrial (such as seven lives by in strict confidence) it can just fail to grip the speakers well enough at the limit (so some of the sense of impact is lost). This is in contrast to my previous 332/300/250 which could do this. However we are looking at used prices a £1000 ish amp v a £18000 stack + cables / racks.
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Mentioned before that when I first got mine I was concerned I thought it sounded quite ‘bright’. That absolutely settled down over the following weeks to become dynamic and musical. Fluid with a snap!
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Ideal for Jazz, vocal and neofolk. However if you really push it hard with complex high energy rock Like the AC/DC recording) or very wave industrial (such as seven lives by in strict confidence) it ca just fail to grip the speakers well enough at (some of the sense of impact is lost).
That’s why they play a lot of Jazz at Hifi shows,it’s very easy for the systems
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Not to forget, that a lot of jazz is very well recorded.
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At Hifi shows ,I used to ask them to play this song on their ultra expensive analytical hifi system instead of Jazz…the intro was fine then everything fell apart…
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