Just wanted to share some good news, regarding my Nait 50’s volume range issue.
Last week I mentioned the following:
“I just tried to lower the output by around 10db, in the audio settings of my Node Icon, but if I set the volume slider to 100% after that I can hear the difference, compared to the full 100% fixed modus. (the latter sounding better)”
But, …last night I lowered the max. output on by BS Node icon with 15db and then, instead of having the output signal still set on adjustable and moving the volume slider in the app to 100%, I ‘ve now set the output signal to fixed. (I first thought that setting the adjustable signal to 100% would achieve the same result as having the output set to fixed, but… apparently it doesn’t.
With these settings I can now turn the volume knob on my N50 to 9 o’ clock, for average volume level, and so far could not detect any loss in sound quality. So, …happy as can be.
I have one more question if I may; If I connect one sub to one speaker only with a high level cable as instructed it will only get the bass signal for one channel … . Am I getting this wrong?
There are different views on this but almost all lower frequency bass signals are mixed to mono so it should sound the same whether you connect to one or two speakers. Technically it’s possible that there is the odd record that mixes stereo sub bass signals but I’m not aware of any
If you have the option to connect to both without too much hassle then you might as well to make sure you’re not missing any information, especially if your crossover is high
So even if a Bass instrument is only on the left channel through my speakers (jazz records) and the sub is wired to the right speaker it will get a signal? I am confused. How would I wire one sub into both speakers? Thanks
I am also looking at this older Naim forum thread which is not exactly clear about the optimal options either. Starting to regret having ever considered this .
If you’re concerned then go for the designacable, especially if you know there is sub bass to only the left speaker. The reality is it’s unlikely to have no signal to the right and so the sub will pick it up anyway (even if its mixed more to the left)
I’m wondering… have any of you Nait 50 owners experienced quite a level of hum, when selecting the phono input on the Nait, with no turntable connected ?
The phonostage on my N50 is humming quite a lot. According to Google this it totally normal for the very sensitive phonostage of the Nait 50, without a tt connected.
Every now and then I’m thinking of adding a turntable to my system. Can I expect the phonostage to become (more) quiet, leaving just a normal level of phonostage hiss, by simply connecting a turntable ? (which would likely be a Rega)
I understand your question, Skeptikal. There’s obviously no sense in selecting the phono input, without having a tt connected to it, bit I’d just like to know if the (quite loud) humming is indeed normal.
And I’d just like to feel reassured that it dissapeares as soon as I plug in a tt.
Thanks! With ‘they’ you mean all the Nait 50’s or any Naim amp with a phonostage ?
(as a CB Nait 2 I once had didn’t have any hum, just the normal level of faint hiss)
Hi
Yes as I explained when the load is connected all is well
If you’ve never had a TT or transducer source you will find them slightly more noisy but not at an open circuit level.
With any amp.
All is normal.
Yep, you likely missed this as it’s been covered at least a couple of times in a very long thread, you just need to earth the amp to lose the hum…If not earthed, either directly or through connecting an earthed naim bit of kit for instance, you will likely still get your hum when TT connected.
For instance my P3 RS is hooked up to the 50. No earth, still hums. Earthed, no hum. Or at least up to insane volume level which would never be used…
Ooops… thanks for the info Jamie, but… that’s the kind of message I wasn’t hoping for tbh.
I don’t have earthed sockets in my livingroom (as most houses here in the Netherlands) It doesn’t matter though, whether I have my Nait 50 connected to the un-earthed mains in the living room or (as a test) to an earthed wallsocket in my kitchen. Both ways give an equal level of hum. As a grounding test though, I connected one end of a paperclip to the groundscrew on the back of the N50, and the other end touching the side of the left (white) rca input, and then… silence, no humming! (in both cases, so when connected to the unearthed sockets (livingroom) or the grounded/earthed sockets. (kitchen)
(btw, not sure it’s called unearthed or ungrounded)
I answered this it’s not mains hum it’s open circuit transducer noise when nothing is connected.
Earth hum is different again.
A phono or transducer input is always noisier especially with nothing connected.
I apologize, Skeptikal. Perhaps I didn’t understand you right. With ‘open circuit transducer noise’ do you mean the rca’s from the N50 phono input act like say an antenna, when nothing is connected ? And therefor picking up hum ?
My Rega IO phono input is fairly quiet with nothing connected. Obviously not as quiet as any line level input, but no humming, just a normal, faint hiss when I turn up the volume. (for Rega amps though it’s not mandatory to have them connected to earthed/grounded main)
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With ‘they’ you mean all the Nait 50’s or any Naim amp with a phonostage ?
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