I guess you don’t believe in burn in ?
‘Night and day’, or ‘a veil has been lifted’.
Absolutely - its part of growing up!
My point was simply not to judge the article but to read the study it was based on.
I like this thread, I am looking forward to the conversations over the coming weekend
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I prefer to retire before my hair get dressed.
That’s a luxury problem. I have hardly any hair left …
Any article where they quote ‘real engineers’ is almost certainly going to be nonsense. It’s like those people on here who start some blinkered post or another with ‘I’m an engineer’ and then explain why something simply cannot work. My lovely son is an electronic engineer and insists that Ethernet cables cannot change the sound, because they ‘just can’t’. But I know they can. The article says that isolation feet cannot work. I tried some of the forum favourites IsoAcoustics Gaias under my then Nova and they completely destroyed the sound. Never trust an engineer.
As long as you don’t have expensive cables, Ethernet cables or switches, you will not feel involved.
High fidelity is luxury.
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De rien, mon ami.
I wonder what the mythical ‘real engineers’ would make of this. It can’t possibly work. And cables that don’t conform to standards. Ye gods!
Uncertified ethernet cables are prone to overheating. Something to do with data packets travelling in an uncoordinated fashion and bumping into each other, spilling their electrons. You can clearly see your cables overheating.
Trust me, I am an engineer!
Presumably you meant ELECTRICAL engineer.
Try and get through the day without using anything designed or manufactured by a mechanical engineer. ![]()
Even dealers know some bits are snake oil. Decades ago in the trade, we had an accessories rack with several items that were utter nonsense and even the owners knew it. The rule was never recommend them or actively sell them but that there were some die hard imbibers of snake oil who would actively seek these things out and get uppity if you didn’t have them or suggested they were nonsense. So we stocked them for that crowd.
Oh well, whether you enjoyed the article or not…it’s certainly contributed towards an entertaining thread
I’m up early to watch the ashes.
I assume your son is a chartered and/or professional engineer? In which case he probably does know about how the mechanism of an ethernet cable (or any RF reflective stub load) can interact with the host device to create and shape noise, and in a closed audio system that can be audible. The cable itself of course doesn’t change the ‘sound’.. but when connected to an audio rendering host, as almost certainly it will being a non-ideal transmission line, it will likely interact and change the noise profile from the rendering host. If he is interested I can share links/books on this … but I suspect if he is a professional and/or chartered electronics engineer he will be more than fully aware of this… as this is 101 electronics… possibly more a case of semantics, as he is literally correct, an Ethernet cable on its own can not change the sound.. unless it is non functioning of course .. so there is no sound…..
One reasonably common trait of the engineers and engineering architects I work with is the preciseness of technical language… unlike what appears typical in audiophile land..
Thanks Simon. It’s a while ago that we had the conversation and he’s much more knowledgeable these days. And it’s always fun to wind up one’s old man. He got his degree in 2024 and now works doing clever stuff, and work are now paying for him to do his MSc over two years.


