I can see on my Tidal app which file is which. But I can’t find a way to do that on the Naim app, without looking at the Tidal app.
I listened to DSoTM 2011 Remaster from Tidal last night. I haven’t listened to that LP for a few years, and cannot compare it as my vinyl copy was stolen in 1986 and I’ve sold my CD player. The 2011 version seemed to reproduce the the drums and cymbals with a separation and clarity I’ve never heard before, but the percussion overall seemed too quiet and distant in the mix. Also, Clare Torry’s voice in The Great Gig in the Sky seemed too quiet in the mix as well. Overall the 2011 remaster does not compare well to my memory of this LP, which I’ve probably listened to over 50 times.
It sounds like you have the original EMI release, made in Japan (CDP400001 I think) which has pre-emphasis applied (so I’ve read) which would explain your comments.
I’m not aware of a 1990 mastering of DSOTM, though that doesn’t mean there wasn’t one made somewhere in the world, 1993, 2003 and 2011 are the main remasters. It would be intresting to know what exactly Tidal are using. As others say the 2011 remaster is thought to be the best to date, though see below. If you bought it as part of the Immersion box set you’ll have got a blu-ray which contains a 96/24 version of the original mix from 1973 and a 5.1 mix.
I prefer the 96/24 version (though it’s a b*gger to get off the disc onto NAS as a wav, unless someone knows a simple method), with the 2011 as my preferred 44.1/16 version.
Below: There’s a ship load of people across various forums who insist quite strongly that the original EMI version is “the best” and won’t listen to anyother point of view.
Hi JimDog, as it happens, I’ve been listening to a few Dark Side variations since my last post. Sad life, must get out more.
We compared a few DC rips but short listed to … 2003 EMI SACD from the CD layer. I mentioned this in my 1st post, it was remastered from the original master tape, previous CD’s were from 2nd generation tapes.
The so called 2011 recording that was indeed recorded in 2011 but my copy is the same (I assume) recording released in 2016 by Pink Floyd Records.
Anyhow, back to what we heard: the 2003 album is the best of the bunch we had up to that date so we focused on comparing that to the “2011”
2011 is a lot different, its more different than the 2003 is comparing it to previous others.
All you say is spot on, I do like the lower level percussion, it sounds more realistic & part of the band. Likewise the Gig in the Sky vocals being further back in the mix add a more dreamlike atmosphere. The whole is more natural & realistic, overall instruments+vocals have a more organic & ‘analogue’ sound, there is more separation & 3D in the sound stage. But the big thing is much improved clarity. No doubt this is an excellent real lock stock & barrel re-mastering of this famous recording, highly recommended.
Looking forward to when I can decide exactly how best to rip my CDs and do that. Then enjoy making some comparisons with Tidal and Qobuz streaming and High res files.
Also - adding the 272, plus thorough separating of the tangle of cables in my stereo, and isolating the noisiest elements, plus adding the rack has lifted my SQ up to a level I only dreamed of.
So all listening now is a pleasure.
(e.g. last night finding: Jazz At The Philharmonic: Blues In Chicago 1955 with Buddy Rich, Dizzy Gillespie, Flip Phillips, Herb Ellis, Illinois Jacquet, Lester Young, Oscar Peterson, and Roy Eldridge)
I can still only find one version on Tidal…
So discogs list 822 releases of DSOTM… phenomenal!
But which is the best that you can actually still purchase, new or second hand? I mean the apocryphal Pink Floyd Records 2011 digital version appears to be made of unobtanium so, please, what is the second choice?
The 2011 remaster is the latest & available all over the place in vinyl, CD & download.
Don’t get confused with the 2011 bit, thats when it was remastered for inclusion in another big Pink Floyd project. The copy that I have from Qobuz was says its 2011 in the title, then in the credits it shows Pink Floyd Records 2016. I believe the “2016 Pink Floyd Records” part is actually a Copy Right legal statement…
Yes its confoozin’
Thanks… there’s a copy up the river that says it’s the 2011 remaster:
Original Release Date: 1 Mar. 1973
Release Date: 31 Oct. 2014
Label: Pink Floyd Records
Copyright: ℗ 2016 Pink Floyd Music Ltd., marketed and distributed by Parlophone Records Ltd., a Warner Music Group Company © 2016 Pink Floyd Music Ltd.
Is this the one we’re talking about?
It would appear as its released in 2014 (after 2011) & by Pink Floyd Records, then thats the one.
Cheers… Buy now…
That’s the one. The 2011 “Discovery” version was on EMI, in a card gatefold sleeve.
EMI was bought up by Universal and Warners, with Warners getting Pink Floyd who were transfered to “Parlophone”. The CDs were reissued in 2016 on “Pink Floyd Records” in a new sleeve (still cardboard) with reference to EMI removed and Warners added.
All 14 albums (to that date) were reissued on “Pink Floyd Records” (Parlophone) , with sleeves that were closer to the orginals than the EMI “Discovery edition” ones were. THe disk label also reverted away from a Discovery “Big-D” to something resembling at least one of the original vinyl labels. The Endless River was on Warners from day 1.
The 2014 refers to the date Pink FLoyd moved from EMI to Warners I believe.
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