Yes, exactly. What you’ve bought is yours.
Thx HH.
ATB, J
Your Qobuz account, which includes links to your downloads, remains active irrespective of whether you have a current streaming subscription.
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Tidal is better audio-wise. I have had both services at once and checked on a NDX2, NAC62, Hi-Cap, NAP250, with Linn DMS isobarick. Tidal CD-level (before the recent update to the Focal/Naim app that gave us access to Hi-Res/Max) is better sonically, overall, than Qobuz Hi-Res (although there is a little more softness in Hi-Res files, as usual). The difference is even clearer with the arrival of Max/Hi-Res files with the update. So, if you want the best audio quality, go with Tidal.
Can you explain?
Not necessarily not there. It’s just that Tidal interface is incredibly bad. It does not implement a standard for 20 years like Minimum-Edit-Distance algorithm to correct typos or wrong order of titles and so forth. Sometimes I cannot find an album that I know is there because I don’t remember the right way to access the DB entry. I feel like sending some of my students’ resumés so they can get the minimum amount of computational linguistics done right! In my experience very few actual differences in what’s available on Tidal and Qobuz. But sometimes I have to go to Qobuz to find the best way to retrieve the album on Tidal!
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See the separate T&Cs thread.
Licensing changes have apparently required Qobuz to prevent certain purchases from being redownloaded after 1st October (I think there was a week’s grace).
I was pleased they advised of 3 albums I’d no longer be able to re download but it was actually over 60 out of 451 purchases.
My downloads are fragmented over many computers/external drives and an old NAS.
I actually preferred browsing the purchased list in the Naim app and internet streaming from that - many titles still listed but won’t play if they can’t be redownloaded.
Hope that makes sense.
Thanks. Yes just logged on, and notice that some albums can’t be now re downloaded.
I’m sure I have copies of everything purchased multiple times, in many formats too. My responsibility to download not Qobuz to maintain a cloud like repository though they had done for over 9 years. Out of their control.
While many will not ‘get’ my purchases and thereafter streaming from the internet, someone points out on Roon this actually brings more revenue to the artist due to the subsequent admittedly minor internet streaming payments per track. I’d never thought of that.
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Don’t get your last point… streaming, no matter what API used triggers a stream play … even if streamed from a cache.
Probably incorrect nomenclature on my part, I meant as opposed to local playback from a NAS or via UpNp etc which I tend to describe as local streaming if that makes sense.
I got a bit excited about it as I’d purchased a Deep Purple album another user had been told would be affected, and another mentioned some Kate Bush albums.
I assumed that the list of 3 affected albums emailed to me by Qobuz might be incomplete and it certainly was, so the threads were just a ‘heads up’ to others to ensure they had downloaded/re-downloaded copies if they needed to.
Oh I see… well you would have to stream approx five hundred to a thousand times (depending on variables) to create more revenue than a download for the artist.
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Sure, appreciate per track it’s tiny, but if I’ve already purchased they get a little extra on playback via the internet as well if you get my drift unless playing a purchased item in this way doesn’t generate a streaming payment.
An update: Qobuz recently launched a Student plan, Tidal has the same, so getting some parity on that front as well.
Qobuz student plan is limited to 2 years in maximum duration, Tidal has no limits, but Qobuz seems covering more countries for HighSchools students - my son’s case - while Tidal cover only University students outside US.
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I just got confronted with a massive issue with Qobuz policy. I always have quite a number of albums on pre-order status, and download when released.
Now recently they apparently lost rights on multiple albums. But so far it didn’t hit me as these have been albums which I had downloaded in the past so I have them already.
However now they also stopped providing downloading on albums which released today or the week before. Without providing refund, and some pre-ordered albums also disappeared. So no delivery while I paid.
Obviously sent them a complaint, but this is quite serious as I always trusted the process……, now I would need a subadministratiin if I ever would pre-order something…. Obviously this means for me that I will never will pre-order anymore at Qobuz, as it’s not reliable.
Apparently Amazon also had incidents on the Kindle in which you lose access to books without notification and while you paid. A scary world in which you can’t rely anymore on your bought content.
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The weird additional thing is that you still can buy the albums from Qobuz….
I have just seen this on another forum, anyone able to stream DSD yet with Qobuz?
Looks like it might be just downloads.
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If you paid by credit card, you would be protected by credit card protection. If not then it’s an issue to raise with trading standards. That is if you paid for something, and it was not supplied or money refunded. That would be a criminal act.
I guess I will get it back also through normal complaint…., but it’s unpleasant that they don’t act from their side - they have the data.
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