Transparency vs punch?

Max apologies for my question but what nsats are?

Simon i wouldn’t consider our rensponse a variable because it is the same we are applying to every listening, it is not biased.
Coming back to the point when I auditioned my devores with a line magnetic 845 it was bloody sounding but it was not honest at all.
332 with 250 is brutally honest and fantastic sounding, but not bloody like the former.
I didn’t audition the nait50 but I really doubt that it’s preamp section could compete with the 332 and everything you lost you can’t recover afterwards

Piebia, what does bloody sounding mean?

The N50 is an integrated so its preamp is optimally integrated with power amp … and because it’s combined some of the otherwise required electronics and cost for separate pre amps is avoided. Also the N50 preamp is relatively simple… there is no tape out, automation, balance control, limited inpurpts… but in my experience that adds to the SQ performance. Preamp simplicity and avoidance of control electronics is a principle followed by some other idiosyncratic high end hifi such as from DNM. You trade usability for SQ.

Anyway I don’t think it’s a case of saying x is better than y, it’s what you prefer and what is optimum in your environment… I got to the stage where I sold my 552DR/250 and purchased a little N50 and was back in replay nirvana again and faith restored with Naim. Perhaps it is how I listen to music, textures and sounds? I don’t know… and I am sure what is best for me won’t be best for everyone else.

Audio commercial recording replay is a choice of compromises, it’s about making choices that work for you.
Yes I do realize speakers, room and source are also key, I use Chord Electronics DAVE, a Naim streamer providing digital audio and Russell K speakers, with some room treatment.

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It means that it sounded visceral, with tons of dynamic in a deep soundstage, you felt that sound had a body. It was a fantastic combo but with limitations, the bass was not completely controlled, the details were not so present and the noise was not deep, btw an 845 triode is polarised more than 400v

Not at all. The thing that most impressed when I first heard a NAP500 was its delicacy and subtle rendition of tone and texture.

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My goodness, not sure what you listen to or where, but thank you for explaining.
But yes sound stage can be useful in ambient or field recordings to give the feel, though with many commercial recordings the sound stage/stereo field is deliberately manipulated to give a certain replay performance… it can also help the separation of sounds in a mix… it can be very effective for giving space and body around vocals and lead instruments … and by subtly adjusting the relative channel timing/phase you can make an instrument pop out/ forward in the mix.

To be honest Simon I listen music for enjoyment and not to analyse the recording. I feel that I m not alone considering the number of people listening from an lp12 or an old garrard.
The 845 was a lot of enjoyment but the 332 sounds really better and this is why i decided for the 332. 845 with devotes would be my perfect second system but newly I can’t be convinced that an old garrard with an spu cart sounds better than an rp10 or a vertere. I can only understand that some of us preferred emotion and fun to precision and reality. What it confuses me is that I wouldnt put you in this group

Fair enough, however I record my own and produce music so I guess one learns the the techniques of the trade… it doesn’t all happen by magic… no matter good your hifi is. :grinning:

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You can have swathes of emotion with precision and reality, together with ā€œfunā€ when the music itself is fun. I would hate to make music into fun if it is not inherently so!

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I agree

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