For me I think this story is actually extremely scary.
Look up the story on techspot abiut hive AI x-bat pilotless fighters.
Didn’t these designers watch The Terminator…
Gordon
For me I think this story is actually extremely scary.
Look up the story on techspot abiut hive AI x-bat pilotless fighters.
Didn’t these designers watch The Terminator…
Gordon
Yes, that’s what gave them the idea!
But might it be a question of degree? If I take a landscape photograph and use the AI facility in Photoshop to remove a telegraph cable, does that render it disgusting, at least if I’m honest about what I’ve done?
Roger
No. What you’re describing is using an AI assisted tool to edit an original image you provided (which is fine as it’s yours) whereas my beef comes with using generative AI that is trained on stolen art to regurgitate images using prompts by people with no morals or taste.
And no, I have no interest in a sophistic debate about where the line is drawn (no pun intended) between AI tools and AI “art.” The outcome is clear and self-evident to anyone who cares one iota about human artistic endeavor.
Some obvious points.
Firstly, the complaint of the originator won’t be the same as regards whether a person or AI has stolen their art. Not at all.
When a musician is accused of stealing something from another you are talking about the taking of one thing from one song to another song. AI doesn’t do that. It will digest 1m songs from a specific site and if all your music is on that site then it will take all of it. That then raises entirely new complaints. Theft of an entire catalogue is very different from theft of the middle 8 from your unknown song that would have been huge had that b’stard not stolen it and become famous. It’s different in how you identify the theft in the first place, how you prove what its then appeared in and how appropriate recompense is calculated but there’s also currently no process for reversal.
When you’ve taken the opening of a song from another song and the case is proven you have the sanctions of a public telling off, financial recompense and the fact that from then on the eyes of the world are on you. You’re very unlikely to be a recidivist. When you’ve stolen an entire catalogue there is currently nothing to stop recidivism at all.
Secondly, no, not a question of degree. How did that AI tool in photo editing software acquire the data to be able to fix your pick. Same thing. It was stolen without any admission of blatant theft nor any offer of recompense. The way you use it might look incremental to you but it’s literally ripped off thousands of people for you to do that.
Thirdly, a lot of people would do well to read the T&Cs of your AI burglar of choice. There’s a big shock coming when you do. They all require you, for example, to declare that anything you produce must credit that said art, product, process etc. was produced with the AI burglar of your choice. So, yeah, touch up a couple of pixels of your magnificent new digital picture with your tiny and amazingly clever AI driven tool of choice but if you’re not crediting Chat GPT et al then somewhere further down the line you can expect Napster v the record industry part xxx.
Interestingly, whilst this last point may seem the more far fetched of the 3, the law is already heartily at work on exactly this in many spheres. Complete a submission for your employment tribunal case but fail to mention that AI played a part in it, even of it was just spell check, then you’re risking contempt of court for failing to accurately represent a source of evidence.
Thought I’d posted this but perhaps not.
Music platforms will use AI to detect the music created by AI… this will bug the AI which will self-destruct… ![]()
It’s bad enough listening to the endless music that’s been mixed and remixed or this version or that version plus the never ending copy’s of older songs that have no resemblance to the original and sound utter sh@#* now we have to put up with Ai producing songs and music it’s no wonder bands that actually write there own music and lyrics struggle to get noticed GOD what is this world coming to unless he is Ai as well
Since AI started making entries in our everyday lives I’ve been wondering if Frank Herbert’s use of these fictional anti computer laws was merely a means to an end, i.e. to make the plot of Dune work, or whether he did in fact had some misgivings as to what fully developed computers might mean for our species.
What might be an interesting Turing like test, is to take a composer’s unfinished work, ask AI tools to finish the score whilst taking into account that same composer’s prior work but disregarding any subsequent “ finishing work” done by human composers. Do the same with a number of human composers. Then have the works performed as if it were a blind tasting.
Suspect few people care about such things. You’re either in favour of this slop or you’re not. That’s not going to change with any kind of test or proof or anything.
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