Where to put the XPS-DR?

Greetings from Australia! I have an interesting situation. I had a NAC272/XPS-DR and a NAP250-DR. I bought an NDX2 and thought I would be better off moving the XPS-DR to the NDX2 and using the internal power for the NAC272. I had it that way for several weeks and decided to switch the XPS-DR back to the NAC272 and let the NDX2 power itself.

To my ear, the XPS-DR on the NAC272 sounds noticeably better - fuller and richer across the spectrum and tighter, punchier bass.

Please correct me if I’m mistaken, but I’m thinking that the NAC272 on its own power, can’t keep up with the NDX2. Does that make sense?

I would consider a second XPS-DR but I intend to upgrade the NAC272 to a NAC252/SC-DR.

Interested to hear what you think.

@Lipper The XPSDr is intended for digital sources such as your ANDX2. Your Preamp should have a HighcapDR

That is incorrect according to the Naim manual.

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The NAC272 Preamp uses an XPS or 555 on the streamer section of the device. You can’t use a HighCap with it.

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Sounds like you need to upgrade to the 282. :slight_smile:

More seriously - what you’re hearing is that the NDX2 is already more capable than what the Nac272’s Preamp can do. And putting the xpsdr on the ndx2 is making the source better, but the bottle neck is the nac272. The xpsdr on the nac272 is making the bottleneck go away - and the the NDX2 is still good enough.

You could put another xpsdr on the ndx2, making it a better source, but whether the nac272 will be able to do it justice remains to be seen - even with the xpsdr on it.

when I was in your shoes many years ago, I actually sold the nac272 off and got an Olive Nac 72/HiCap for less than half of what I got for the 272. and that system was awesome!

and yes, eventually, the 72 got sold off and replaced with a 282. still running the ndx2/xpsdr/282/supercap/250.

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Having had a 272 for nearly 10 years, and thought it was a great piece of kit, I would say that with a PS it is a brilliant preamp. Without PS not so much. This is what you have proved! So stick with XPS on the 272.

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I would keep the XPSDR on the 272 as it benefits the preamp stage in the 272 and the NDX2 as source.

A 555PSDR on the 272 is the best upgrade you can do and then XPSDR on NDX2.

A 300DR over 250DR, would create a formidable set up, IF you wanted to upgrade any further.

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We tried exactly this little experiment many moons ago.

Had 272/XPSDR/250DR and were upgrading (NDX2 arrived), so played around.

Without the PSU the 272 drops way off in performance (as a preamp).

With choice of 272 or NDX2 the PSU definitely goes on 272!

You won’t be disappointed with a 252, we love ours.

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Seconded.

Are you sure? Assuming primary use is digital source, I wonder if the 555PS on the NDX2, and XPS on 272 might be better? If there is vinyl used as a significant source, then I would agree with you (555PS + 272).

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