Allae suspension not working

Hi,

Just picked up a pair of cherry Allaes in great condition. Haven’t listened yet, just checking things over.
Noticed the leaf spring seems bottomed out — no rocking back and forth at all, with or without the mid/bass cabinet on top.
As I have understood it there should be some amount of rocking, can I gently bend the spring back, and if so, how much travel should there be in the leaf spring when it’s working right?

Any tips appreciated!

/Joacim

To the original poster, do you have a dealer who can assist with setup? Also for me, saying used stuff is in great condition means that everything works as it should. Others might feel differently.

Hi Jaybar!

I’m not a native English speaker — by “as new” I just meant they look really good.., mechanically everything seems fine, except for the suspension.

There are a few dealers here in Stockholm, though I’m not sure how familiar they are with Allaes or how much time they’d spend on this. For sure I will reach out to one of them, but I figured someone here might have fiddled with allaes before and could give me some pointers.

/Joacim

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Assuming the dealer has the skills and knowledge, you might want to see how much the dealer would charge. For me,having a dealer do it, would be better than “self service”, even with forum advice. You might also be able to explore how long, if at all, they would stand by their intervention.

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That’s right, then again I really like to tinker with my gadgets. getting to know them, how its put together etc…
Anyways, 'll check with one of the more reputable dealers around.

Joacim

@Richard.Dane is called.

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It sounds like someone may have tightened up the sprung rear thinking it was loose. Best get them looked at.

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Joacim, With my own Allaes, I have found that it is essential that the speakers are level and the springs work properly. They can sound a bit ‘meh’ if set up wrongly.

If you look underneath the lower boxes where the springs are you will see three small wood screws towards the back of the spring. As Richard says, someone may have tightened them. I have gently examined the tightness of mine and found them to be no more than finger tight. You could do the same if you ‘like to tinker’. A dealer may be able to give you an accurate torque setting. Or Naim themselves, I feel sure.

Please let us know how you get on.

Chris

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Hi Richard, thanks for reaching out!

There are some give, like a couple of millimeters of play before the leaf spring bottoms out. But once I set them up the weight of the boxes compresses the spring so the cabinets sits firm on the base.
One thought comes to mind, perhaps the suspensions is so fine-tuned that it only works properly when the cabinets are absolutely vertical? I have not leveled them properly and will try to check this out tomorrow.

/Joacim

Hi Christopher,
You beat me to it, I just come to think that maybe I have to get the speakers properly leveled before crying out for help here…

Thanks for your reply, will investigate a bit more tomorrow.

Joacim

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Sounds like your Allaes might be tilting backwards far too far. If so shortening the front spikes should do the job. It could be as simple as that.

C.

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@joacim Any joy?

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HI all,
Thanks for all the input on my first post hear!

I’ve finally set the Allaes up in my living space, and once everything is leveled and the mid/bass cabinets are in place, there is indeed a small amount of front-to-back rocking. Guess everything’s alright then! I’m still getting used to the sound signature after living with my Royd RR3s for more years than I can count.

And sorry for crying wolf before I’d done a proper setup — in my mind I had imagined something quite different when it came to the “rocking” bit…

/Joacim

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So, what’s it like after your Royd years?

IIRC you more or less have Naim’s ‘System III’ from around 2005.

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