- Took me 20 minutes to build the Roon server.
- And another 20 minutes to install Rock.
- In less then an hour it was up and running.
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Thanks, @Thomas. I will try that tomorrow …
BTW, after reading all the articles on Roon’s knowledge base, I watched this video by Alpha Audio. Although the guy had some issues during the live video, I found it very useful:
Regards
colormind
Thanks. With “little” I meant more the dimensions than the capacity. I have a 64 GB or even 128 GB one if necessary, which I would like to use.
I am totally out of touch! I just looked up thumb drives on Amazon. All of mine are still 2 GB or whatever Forget my comment
It’s nice info, but I am not into Roon Nucleus or Roon Rock NUC because I have an un-used 2012 Mac Mini. It works just fine and saves me a few bucks.
Just reading the forum while I wait for Roon Core on my iMac to backup before transferring to my new NUC running ROCK.
I’m a long way from being a computing expert, but have found the build reasonably straightforward following the Installation Guide on the Roon site. Hopefully will be up and running in less than 30 mins which will be about 2 hours of effort from unpacking the memory and SSD to an operational server.
I’ve also gone for a wildy over-specced NUC, on the basis that in the scheme of a Naim system it’s a relatively small expense and it will hopefully be fairly future proof.
Did you find the Teddy LPS make a good difference. Already built the Roon Rock NUC… slightly different Akasa fanless case but the rest is the same. An easy to forget bit of kit… it just looks after itself in terms of updates etc.
That Teddy LPS is a funny story
If your Roon server is not connected directly to your streamer or DAC, then it is connect to your network.
Therefore, there is no difference in terms of sound between a nice Intel NUC, a Nucleus, a MacMini or a PC. It’s just a server somewhere in your network.
It is that simple. And it makes perfect sense. There is no technical reason I am aware of that would lead me to think otherwise.
But… I’m not a stubborn person.
I read some interesting comments about networked Roon servers that would benefit from an LPS.
So I did a pretty expensive experiment. I bought a $500 linear power supply to power my already very expensive Roon server.
Result : not the slightest difference.
I now have a nice NUC with an expensive and useless power supply
It was a $500 fail
Of course, this is just my own experience, YMMV.
posted similar to this before, but relevant - what is the sweet spot for a NUC build for Roon?
Obviously you can max out the spend and get a NUC10i7 with loads of RAM and SSD space, but since it can run on a NUC5i3, then value for money also comes into it…
Long story short - a good level system which should offer decent UI power (for slick browsing) and rapid database access, and yet still be somewhat futureproof, at a decent price: 10i5.
The series 10 generation is not much more than the earlier series. The i3 is adequately powerful but many people report faster GUI responses with an i5 and above - but the i7 is not going to be necessary. Above generation 8 you can modify the bios to turn off the fan so have a quiet PC.
16GB RAM - 8 GB is probably enough but it’s not too much more for 16GB. 256GB Samsung m.2 SSD drive - the 256 is slight faster than the 128 because the chips are laid out slightly differently.
- overall, slightly more than a base spec machine, but if you want to built it once and have it running for years, for it to be snappy and cope of upgrades/changes as Roon evolves, and cope easily as your music tastes diversify, this is a good balance. YMMV…
Lol… so if it’s networked no difference then
At the moment Im connected direct to my M Scaler. Sort of… I made an adapted usb cable that takes a power feed from a power bank and the data cable (usb3) only takes data from the NUC. So, not sure if this will be of benefit or not
Have you tried connecting directly by any chance?
Edit… I was considering a UltraRendu at one point. I guess this needs to be decided first then.
@xcentric 8gb Ram, 256gb PCIe and a NUC7i5 would be more than enough. The i5 gives a bit more headroom if you plan to do multi room or DSP. You’re right about the 256 being faster and a better option rather than the 128gb etc. The 7th get is a good bang for buck point at the moment.
No, I didn’t try that.
Connecting noisy gear like computers directly to you audio gear isn’t a good idea… The ND555 itself is noisy enough.
All my servers, switches, etc… are in a dedicated network cabinet, in a different room.
In my listening room I have only the Naim boxes and speakers.
I use a dedicated network wall socket, and have dedicated mains feeding the Naim gear.
Gotya. The MScaler’s USB is galvanically isolated and it reclocks data coming in so cleans up USB feeds a lot but a LPS may help but… need to make up my mind on whether to add an UltraRendu to the system first I think!
The MScaler is already quite noisy. I wouldn’t bother too much.
I would try isolate the HugoTT from the MScaler. I guess this would provide the best result in terms of sound.
Already sorted that by way of a large power bank. Increases the resistance and stops any noise flowing from the MScaler to the TT2. Improved soundstage depth and removed the small amount of high end glare the scaler can produce internally.
I’ve got a Uptone LPS 1.2 on route to try out to see how it compares. It also keeps the MScaler detached from the mains which should do the same as the Power Bank but with more stable voltage.
I felt similar to what you wrote. An i3 with 8 GB and 64 GB database SSD is most likely sufficient if you don’t do a lot of DSP and the library is not super huge - also compare the specs on the Roon knowledge base for Rock building.
However, in the context of a Naim system the costs are negligible, so I also went with 10i5 and 16 GB. And getting 64 and even 128 disks is more difficult, so 256 it was.
Be aware that an 8th gen gives you more options for LPS use than the requirements of the 10th gen, if you are into this kind of thing
Thomas…that looks like one of the Akasa cases? What do you think of it, which model is that?
Cheers
Have that option in the NUC5i3 too.
However, have never heard the fan on, every during the benchmark testing I undertook, or when I have added a chunk of new material into my Library, and it has to scan it, identify metadata and sample them for DR measurement using all 4 cores.
Hi Jack, well spoted. It is indeed an AKASA case. Don’t remember the which. It should be mentioned on my profile.
It’s well designed and dissipates heat quite efficiently. You can even add an 1U face plate and mount it in a standard network rack.
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